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Post by doulsy on Dec 11, 2014 13:12:06 GMT
Thanks for the replies, think i will just go with silver, im in glasgow Henri.
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Post by doulsy on Dec 10, 2014 22:28:25 GMT
iI have removed all the old paint and was wondering what colour to paint them, I was gonna go for your basic wheel silver, i have painted my scooter white and im going with the Italian theme, Italian flag seat and maybe a badge here or there, i dont want to over do it, i could do one green and one red or would that be daft looking? just looking for some advice or idea's, im a spraypainter and have access to a mixing scheme, just seems a shame after all the work to hit them with a silver airasol.
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Post by doulsy on Dec 10, 2014 21:59:13 GMT
there body earths not negative so if you find the indicators or rear light will not work simply make your own from the earth pins on the holders to frame or panels using a bit of .75 upto 1 mil wire and find a decent bit of rust free steel to fix the other end . don't forget to re protect any bare metal if you make an earth point hole. as to why they are there somebody could have re mounted them to that point for a decent earth or any number of reasons just because they can watch yer mouth lol
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Post by doulsy on Dec 8, 2014 21:06:37 GMT
this is a picture of the old loom, you can see the earth wires on the side panel locks, my new loom don't have these, why are they there if i don't need them?
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Post by doulsy on Dec 8, 2014 0:03:51 GMT
The switch should be OK, try it first... The indicators earth back through the panel clips- mainly the spring mount on top of the panel/lug on the chassis - so no earth return wire needed. yeah but it looks like im two earths short, i will post some pictures tomorrow but the earths on the springs that lock the side panels are missing.
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Post by doulsy on Dec 7, 2014 23:02:14 GMT
thanks for the advice, found a few other issues, the new loom don't earth the rear indicators from the side panel lock so i will have to figure this out, also im using my old handlebar switches with the old wiring and have notice the yellow wire going to the horn is a bit black, should i just renew everything regarding electrics? the switches look ok and i have greased them up.
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Post by doulsy on Dec 6, 2014 12:15:49 GMT
Blue and black are the lights, ignore them. Then you need to connect the last CDI connection to a length of wire and find a way to earth it to kill the engine. i have green wire on the new loom, connect that to the cdi?
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Post by doulsy on Dec 5, 2014 22:28:11 GMT
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Post by doulsy on Dec 5, 2014 22:03:35 GMT
looks like i was mistaken, the yellow, blue and black go to the rear light and the blue, black and green go to the fly wheel and thanks to you guys i now know the green is the kill switch, problem is now with the replacement engine, i never got a custom loom because i plan on getting my p200e original engine restored when i have the cash, it has lay with water in it for years so you can imagine the work and the parts involved, if i just connect the blue and black wire, will this mean i will have to stall the scooter? i will post a picture of the replacement engine.
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Post by doulsy on Dec 5, 2014 21:16:26 GMT
Dont know, i bought the scoot after it had lay in a garden for years and years,i bought a temp engine for it, it also only has the two wires coming from the fly wheel, will have to be monday before i can phone beedspeed.
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grips
Dec 5, 2014 15:02:45 GMT
via mobile
Post by doulsy on Dec 5, 2014 15:02:45 GMT
They do look great
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Post by doulsy on Dec 5, 2014 15:00:39 GMT
Thanks for the info, just notice on the old loom that 1 wire had been chopped back but its green, got the loom from beedspeed and i thought this was gonna be simple lol, pretty sure it comes out at the headset.
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grips
Dec 4, 2014 22:48:41 GMT
Post by doulsy on Dec 4, 2014 22:48:41 GMT
Three tips: 1) Heat the new ones up to make them easier to get on 2) Use hair lacquer to hold them in place 3) DO NOT BUY SUNDANCE GRIPS!!!!! OH NO! whats wrong with sundance grips, i just bought them, doh
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Post by doulsy on Dec 4, 2014 22:46:32 GMT
just bought a new wiring loom and it has an extra wire engine side where it connects to the fly wheel generator, old loom just had black and a blue wire, the new one also has a yellow, any idea's? the rest of the loom looks the same.
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Post by doulsy on Sept 29, 2014 21:24:19 GMT
im a bit confused with my chassis number, mine has DGM 16@@@ OM VSX 1T * @@@@ * when i check scooter help and put the four digits between the stars it comes back as a 78 p200e same as my engine, but if i put in the 5 digits between the letters in it comes back as a 79 p200e, when i put my reg in the dvla website it tells me its a blue 78 p200e, i have stripped the paint of and it is defo blue from factory, seems strange to me that the dvla think the frame has been swapped. Nice hijack. .. lol
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Post by doulsy on Sept 29, 2014 15:13:15 GMT
thanks for the replies and advice, had another look at the floor today, all the rotted bits are on the one side, i read a guide on how to go about this and i think replacing the floor would be better than trying to repair it, the floor support's underneath look solid but all the rot is at the seam anyway, i would like a look at some image's Henri, thanks.
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Post by doulsy on Sept 28, 2014 20:09:52 GMT
and that's my my work, up the side of the spray booth lol, had a few project in that corner
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Post by doulsy on Sept 28, 2014 19:59:24 GMT
nice touch with the sunnies ,looks like a really good base for a project ,an looks like youve got the shed space n nice comp to spray with ,from earlyier post you reckoned on re-flooring it ,from piccys i'd reccomend just patching an replacing floor supports rather than new floor ,unless theres issues with center tunnel/saddle area ya need to fix whilst floors off, its loads easier n less risky for distortion ,an also a big line of rigid weld where leggys n floor are joined can give cracking problems in paint n joints later on ,as frame will flex when ridden an the weld wont flex evenly with the rest giving a weak point , a lapped joint spreads the load more but is almost immpossible to hide well . also the quality of floor panels is variable to say the least ,if ya stick a phone on video recording an a torch down into frame under tank an up through brake block area it will give ya a good idea of the frames "health" an wether floor needs to come off, H every body says patch it up, i work in a body shop, i dont think a new floor is a problem, i suppose i could patch it but it looks quite solid when you look inside, i looked into and you can use a brace, never restored a vespa before though only vw's
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Post by doulsy on Sept 28, 2014 16:07:37 GMT
im a bit confused with my chassis number, mine has DGM 16@@@ OM VSX 1T * @@@@ *
when i check scooter help and put the four digits between the stars it comes back as a 78 p200e same as my engine, but if i put in the 5 digits between the letters in it comes back as a 79 p200e, when i put my reg in the dvla website it tells me its a blue 78 p200e, i have stripped the paint of and it is defo blue from factory, seems strange to me that the dvla think the frame has been swapped.
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Post by doulsy on Sept 28, 2014 14:35:17 GMT
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Post by doulsy on Sept 26, 2014 16:54:03 GMT
So frame number does not match the one recorded against that reg number, so at some point identities have been changed. It will kill the project if they now find that frame number is recorded as stolen or written off, hopefully not. If not, then you 'should' get a new age related plate or they may issue you with the correct original plate for that frame number if it is not currently owned by anyone!. Hope it works out ok. thanks, i wish they would just hurry up and tell me one way or the other, bought the scooter in may, first two weeks i stripped it, took the frame down to bare metal, needs a floor pan and tons of other stuff for the restore so i have held of buying stuff till i got the dvla thing sorted.
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Post by doulsy on Sept 25, 2014 23:04:26 GMT
thanks, it seems to come up on they're system as a vespa douglas p200e, they said the frame numbers don't match but it seems the new frame matches the year of original engine and reg, frame has been swapped like for like but dvla not been notified, if they give me a q reg, i won't be restoring it.
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Post by doulsy on Sept 25, 2014 22:02:49 GMT
this the bolt that holds the head set on?
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Post by doulsy on Sept 25, 2014 21:40:37 GMT
you may have to get the frame authenticated to prove it is what you say then dvla will issue the v5 its only £7 then dvla will send out a v5 as its proven genuine. it could be that it was an import at some point and not uk regd. if its from out side the uk then you have to authenticate. build. mot and insure then apply for the v5 and possibly end up on a q plate but thats worse case scenario she said the registration was ok, she said to put a covering letter in with the form, told her the bike has lay for 20 year and it was in the the property when the lady bought her house, she said to send pictures of the bike when i got it and strongly hinted that a v5 will be sent out as soon as i return the form and they check that none of the scooter's numbers match any other registered vespa.
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Post by doulsy on Sept 25, 2014 21:19:45 GMT
that my p200e chassis number does not match they're records, been waiting to start restoring this scooter really thought it was all original, i checked the chassis and engine number on that scooter help website, and the both came up as a 78 p200e, checked the reg number on dvla and it came up as a blue 78 p200e, i have took the frame back to bare metal and the frame is defo blue from factory, just seems a bit strange, girl at the dvla says its very common with old scooters, 8th of may i applied for a log book and still not got one, i am waiting on another letter they have sent to explain or whatever, any way is a non original frame a big issue? it has kind of put me off a bit, whats the point restoring something that's not original? i could just buy newer scooter and save myself all the work. wonder if im going to have issues with the wiring loom ect, did the original have a battery? should a 6v horn be on it when everything else is 12v?
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Post by doulsy on Sept 25, 2014 20:54:51 GMT
only kidding lol
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Post by doulsy on Sept 25, 2014 20:53:49 GMT
can you post some pictures of it polished?
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Post by doulsy on Sept 23, 2014 13:23:59 GMT
Beedspeed, but I'd ask if you can have one of their own made ones, they're usually excellent quality. (Assuming they still make them, it's been a couple of years) Thanks, i will give them a try
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Post by doulsy on Sept 21, 2014 21:36:51 GMT
OK. Many thanks to all. Your advice has been really useful. need any help give me a shout, i have been a spray painter for 30 year.
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Post by doulsy on Sept 21, 2014 20:45:26 GMT
thanks for the info guys, Henri you able to make me one? and i will just pay you for it.
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