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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 21:12:17 GMT
1st to make sure someone has not changed the head look at the thread with a torch in the head you will see the thread lengh and weather its long or short. a short reach plug will run in a long reach socket but will run rough and you will get carbon build up on the thread also just for info it may have changed but NGK heatranges run "backwards" compared to Bosch ie 6 on ngk is a hot plug and on bosh its cold right the last bit just confused me lol, will do the torch bit tomorrow cheers
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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 20:58:27 GMT
There is 2 types of plug long reach and short reach I've never seen a vespa with short reach plug Infact only low cc bike I've seen with a short reach in 30 years was the omz b6 b7 b8 and so on are only the heat rating of the plug I'd say your scoot had the wrong plug in to start with if the new plug was too long it would have at the very least squashed the electrode on turn over.if you had it running it would have gone through the piston or smashed the plug and you would be stripping the head either way ye recon i should put it back in Rab? it did make it easier kicking from cold.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 20:44:41 GMT
I never had one either but found one that fitted lying about the work, any joy with the indicator rubbers? Just noticed the 2 of the new indicators i bought are broken and my scooter has never even been out the workshop, tell ye its hard work trying to get decent replacement parts. Hi doulsy, The indicator seals are available from SIP and Allstyles as Henri said but theyre asking about £12 including delivery. I've got a roll of draught excluder (sticky on one side and only £1) so Im gonna try going round the perimeter of the lamp holders with it. Not only that but I think its a bit thicker than the old seals if I remember rightly and so should fill out any 'gaps' where the 'new' but not very well fitting new lamps fit. Have you chilled a bit since you were last doing the bike? Hows everything going? Are you ready for the MOT yet? I havent got my date authentication letter back yet. The chap said it'd be here this week just gone. Hope everythings OK. yes m8, i modified the headset loom and made a new bit to deal with the full beam warning light, i was actually gonna make a few diagrams for you for the different bulb holders i came across, better do it while its still fresh in my mind, scooter is MOT'ed just need to send the log book away to register the 125 engine, hope its not stolen lol, gonna spend next winter having a go at rebuilding the original engine, maybe buy that dvd by sausage, also gonna try and buy some original stuff to replace the nasty after market crap.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 20:36:16 GMT
This is from the workshop manual and the plugs they should have ..... P125X.... Marelli CW 6N AT Bosch W225 T1 Champion L86 NGK B7HS AC 43F PX125E..... Marelli CW 6N Bosch W 5A Champion L 86 NGK B6HS AC 43F Hope this helps. will get the b7 to be on the safe side, will keep the other plug for when my 200 is rebuilt.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 19:01:58 GMT
If it started up, it's OK. The damage would have been done on the first stroke of the piston if it was too long. Whether it's the right plug for your set up is a different matter. I got it from a company that i had bought some stuff from, i have a 1978 p200e but im not sure if i told them i had put a 125 lml engine in as my 200 engine is needing mega work, think they have maybe gave me a plug for the p200 engine.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 18:41:39 GMT
I never had one either but found one that fitted lying about the work, any joy with the indicator rubbers? Just noticed the 2 of the new indicators i bought are broken and my scooter has never even been out the workshop, tell ye its hard work trying to get decent replacement parts.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 18:18:38 GMT
Longer thread means it will screw in further with a risk of contacting the piston at the top of the stroke, could do some damage. sh*t, i put it in and it started up, i have now removed it, cheers i will order the proper one
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Post by doulsy on Mar 22, 2015 17:28:21 GMT
Just about to change the plug on my 125 lml engine and the plug i took out is a b7hs the one i have been supplied with is a b8es which has a longer thread, will this do any harm?
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Post by doulsy on Mar 19, 2015 10:53:50 GMT
When i got my p the outer runner was curved so i replace like for like, more poor quality, found out the hard way that its better to bolt them on.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 17, 2015 13:30:43 GMT
Hi Doulsy I checked indicatore cornice on the Italian e bay site, which I think means indicator socket! and the only sellers were wilcat scooter parts and buzz solo! they were selling the large sockets for T5`s can you believe it is the UK sellers who are selling to the Italians Maybe worth contacting Perry Lewis at totally scooters in Cumbria, they are always helpful and may give you some pointers if they cannot supply the bits Have any of the German shops got anything your size? Ian I drilled the whole with a 13mm drill bit to get them to fit, then used the buzz solo side panel indicator loom and all works fine.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 17, 2015 13:24:54 GMT
Infact, im still replacing parts i allready bought for my headset.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 17, 2015 13:23:16 GMT
Stuck my indicator on the right if your sitting on bike,No sure if its correct, i never got rubbers with my indicators either, infact almost everything i have bought has been poor quality, dont buy the rubber grommit kit from ebay because they look like a 10 year old made them. Any news from the dvla?
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Post by doulsy on Mar 14, 2015 23:07:24 GMT
thats what other pro's tell me aswell , but for me diy/home spraying cellys takes some beating , its so forgiving of my stupid mistakes , tho i sprayed synthetic cellulose enamel on a montessa frame today ,1st time spraying usually brush it on , use to take me 2 hours to brush a bike frame an usually mis a bit . 20 minutes an the frames lookin like new , just wish ya could get more/better colours as i fancy doing a scoot in it , bullet proof finish n shiny straight out the gun , H Do what ever suits you henri, mine is not perfect and thats my job
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Post by doulsy on Mar 13, 2015 23:09:56 GMT
no, i'm afraid of 2k as that stuff can be lethal , it can be used occasionaly with a decent 2 filter mask with no probs ,but with my luck at painting would prob kill me , that an the closeness of neighbours to the garage i spray in makes it a no-no for me, a pro-sprayer i know really rates water based stuff aswell , but it can be expensive ,90 odd quid a litre , i pay 35 a litre for celly an that makes my wallet hand cringe as is , tho water based does go further than celly ,about twice as far/coverage . without a bake-oven the drying time is also a factor ,with celly i can take scoot down an out the garage to dry outside after 1/2 a hour , allowing other work to go on ,with water based it would be nearer a day , anyways up,ive decided to get a close match made up by eye n respray the whole scoot an hope not to be such a idiot again , tho i did start spraying another scoot yesterday an got to first 2 colour coats/undercoats before realising i hadnt prepped a clutch side tube/lever mount ,DOH , shouldnt be allowed out unsupervised is the general opinion of friends/family . H i have been a spray painter since i left school and have used lots of paints and systems over the years but i think after getting used to water base most guys would never go back to solvent, used to love celly back in the day and hated the drying times when i moved to 2k but the finish lasted longer than celly, then hated having to learn the water base system, easy colours with solvent became hard with water base and some hard colours became easier, i much prefer using water base coat and a few coats of lacquer without the need for any thinners, best system ever for the painter and environment IMO
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Post by doulsy on Mar 13, 2015 13:38:58 GMT
Yes you really need to have a chat with someone at the dvla, i didn't have to provide anything.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 12, 2015 23:49:04 GMT
Sorry doulsy it DID SAY it was a 1980 P200E. I wonder why DVLA dont have that information. You would think they held every morsel of information about all 'legitimate' vehicles in the UK. the new docs they sent me dont say p200e although i know it is, its just says 1978 vespa douglas 200cc
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Post by doulsy on Mar 12, 2015 22:55:38 GMT
Yes I did go on scooter help and it said the frame numbers were a P200E. It doesn't tell you anything else though doulsy. sure when i did it it gave me the year 1978, think they only made the p200e between 78 and 81, maybe best getting the dating certificate to keep things right moomoo.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 12, 2015 22:45:51 GMT
Ive just had my scooter delivered and found that the indicators dont work i have also found that the battery is missing the shop i bought it off says it dosent need it its a px 125 disc 2002 what circuits does the battery feed is it just for electric start if its ment to have a battery? ask them to send you one as the vespa is incomplete, im sure i read some models need a battery for certain things as the guys have allready said, i would try a battery first, electrics are a sore head.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 12, 2015 22:24:21 GMT
Will I have to pay anything else doulsy? Did you?.......how long did it take you to get your date certificate? I cant remember if you said you got one. never needed one m8 although some people suggested i send one, i told them i researched my frame on scooterhelp.com and that told me what vespa i had, explained to them what the prefix numbers and letters ment, have you spoken to someone? ask if the frame number has come up on the dvla system? did you look on scooter help?
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Post by doulsy on Mar 12, 2015 21:03:59 GMT
thats synthetic enamel like hammeritte you cant flat n polish , its used on tractors n lorry chassis's , H enamel, that's right, you talking about a 2k acrylic then?, friend of mine works for dingbro and mixes paint, i can ask him if he can help, different branches use different systems, i have been using water base for almost 10 years now but i painted my vespa with 2k.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 12, 2015 20:51:13 GMT
Who has the most Fred Perrys? - some sweat-shop in Taiwan these days....................... they have lost some quality over the years, have cheaper polo's which are just as good as FP'S
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Post by doulsy on Mar 12, 2015 20:37:47 GMT
Ive applied for date authentication for the bike to BLA (British Lambretta archive) for £7. The DVLA have asked for it. I dont know how long it will take. that mean they dont have any records of your frame number? still if they have asked for authentication and you give it, will they give you a reg from that year?
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Post by doulsy on Mar 11, 2015 23:19:57 GMT
Would not dream of wearing my fred perry's on my scoot, i keep them for my northern soul nights
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Post by doulsy on Mar 10, 2015 23:15:02 GMT
guessing its between me, rab, henri, ianmartin, and moo moo
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Post by doulsy on Mar 10, 2015 16:29:46 GMT
Is this poly we are talking about?used to use it on lorry's if so you cant flatten and polish it.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 9, 2015 20:43:35 GMT
i painted mine then fitted everything, leave the old loom till the frame is painted then cut most of the wiring off it and tape whats left of it on to new loom and pull it through, get a beer or soft drink crate, pad it and sit the frame on it, nice height to work at and less chance of damage, cables are easy with the tank out. I have only did this once so other guys on here will have some tips, putting the cable in the right place top part of the frame might be my downfall but we will see
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Post by doulsy on Mar 5, 2015 22:00:49 GMT
Left is nearside when sitting on your scooter in this country, so the valve should be on nearside? Is that not the way moomoo had it in the first place? Lol im even starting to doubt my near from off.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 5, 2015 14:25:12 GMT
Desert boots won't protect you in a spill, won't last long on a kickstart (DMs don't either!) and aren't warm. Take the advice of those who've ridden a long way and have ridden for many years, and worry about looking cool (or otherwise) when you arrive at your destination. Plaster and bandages, along with shredded skin and clothes, don't look even slightly smart. Point taken
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Post by doulsy on Mar 5, 2015 11:11:18 GMT
Most likely down to bulb holder Henri, cheers for the advice and yes moomoo had the same problem, think i stuck a strip of plastic on the flat side, the side that is supposed to stop it turning, more bad parts m8, not much i have bought has fitted correctly, dont get me started on the bran new side panels i have bought.
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Post by doulsy on Mar 4, 2015 22:11:15 GMT
Seems I had wired the p up the right way apart from one wire months ago and that was down to beedspeed IMO, the rest of my problems were due to rank rotten replacement parts, bub holders ect, ended up bridging a grey wire from indicator warning lamp to bulb holder as it was in the diagram, i then decided to phone the guys at beedspeed and ask why i had two extra grey wires joined on to one spade holder, he told me they were for the indicator warning lamp and it was to save me bridging it the way i did and the way it shows you on the diagram( if only they could have wrote this on the back of the wiring diagram). Also asked about my main beam warning light coming on, he said it was either the switch or a connection touching somewhere, so i taped up the end of every wire, main beam light still the same, so feck it, I could live with that, put the headset back on and every time I got the headset tighten up, something or other stopped working so i decided to take the headlight and bulb holder out and make my own bulb holder clips that's when I noticed the terminal were moving about After seeing this I decided A new bulb holder was needed, two seconds later i dropped the headlamp and smashed it gonna have a few days break from it, only good thing to come out of this is that I can probably wire a p series from memory now.
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