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Post by bsr65 on Mar 9, 2015 9:54:31 GMT
You can buy kits to do this for £12.99. (3 spacers 26mm plus Allen screws) l recently bought 10 spacers off eBay for £2.80. Think I typed in m8 long but. Hth.
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Post by bsr65 on Jan 29, 2015 17:13:28 GMT
A mate's px200 sounded exactly the same after a heat seize. it ran fine, but after stripping down the top end a small gouge in the bore was found.
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Post by bsr65 on Jan 25, 2015 19:20:44 GMT
sounds like a bit of dirt in the tip of the pilot jet, sometimes a strand of copper electrical wire is needed to clear it
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Post by bsr65 on Jan 9, 2015 16:30:10 GMT
when pushing your scoot in gear with the clutch in, sounds like the plates not separating, which when cold is not uncommon for cosa type clutch's, a bit of adjustment will probably help with that.
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Post by bsr65 on Nov 15, 2014 11:24:57 GMT
the spacer/oil drive cog behind the clutch fits on the crank with the chamfered edge facing out (I think, maybe someone can confirm) That could be the problem.
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Post by bsr65 on Oct 30, 2014 19:44:04 GMT
just a thought, how strong did the magnets on the flywheel feel, they should be strong enough to hold a large spanner.
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Post by bsr65 on Oct 18, 2014 13:18:23 GMT
ha ha must have been typing my answer just as sime66 was finishing his, much of the same.
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Post by bsr65 on Oct 18, 2014 13:14:26 GMT
the dot's on the handle bars don't usually line up bang on, there are lines under the handle bar that should line up when setting the cables, sounds like your's just need adjusting, you also have a fuel leak at the carb, (probably the fuel line banjo screw needing tightened) that would also cause the scoot to cut out. doesn't sound anything serious but the shop should have been a lot more helpful than they were.
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Post by bsr65 on Sept 19, 2014 8:36:33 GMT
Have you changed the plug,? Iv,e had a stator plate pack up in the past with the same symptoms as yours, it would start up ok, but would die when opening the throttle. If it's the original stator the insulation on the wires may well be cracked (shorting).Also you said you cleaned the jets, but the tip of the pilot jet can be stubborn to clean if blocked. (a thin stand of copper wire will do the trick.
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Post by bsr65 on Sept 9, 2014 18:56:01 GMT
any change in the noise when you pull the clutch in?
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Post by bsr65 on Sept 5, 2014 12:37:54 GMT
If it starts by 3rd kick when cold then the bore isn't that worn. Its still running too rich at low revs which is not the main jet. I would put the 120 main back in with that pipe. Even from new there might be some random friday afternoon pilot jet fitted. With autolube running yours should be a 50/120 pilot jet. 120 main jet back in, checked pilot jet that is 55/160, it does run the autolube and it does start on 3rd kick, so it seems the pilot jet is too large. cheers
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Post by bsr65 on Sept 4, 2014 7:55:25 GMT
1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock 2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly. 3. Speedo that works 4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end 5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!! 6. 3 tubeless rims as standard 7. A brighter head light 8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling 9. a 5 port p200 engine option 10. better drainage on the footboards 11. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil.
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Post by bsr65 on Sept 3, 2014 9:57:44 GMT
I fitted a 118 jet and a b7es plug, took head off and cleaned the head and piston crown, did notice a fair bit of side movement in the bore. (piston slap) settled on air mix screw 2.5 turns out. Took for a good 5 mile thrash on A road then checked plug, it was a chocolate brown colour, Put it back in started scoot up for a minute then checked again(sooty black) do you think the worn cylinder is causing it. Ive had piston slap before on another p2 but that had no effect on plug colour .Cheers for reply's
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Post by bsr65 on Sept 1, 2014 9:17:49 GMT
looking for ideas to cure my px200e spark plug being sooty black. The engine is standard apart from sip road 2 exhaust, drilled air filter, b8es plug and 120 main jet. Iv'e changed the plug, cap, ht lead and cdi and checked the stator with a meter. Ive had the mixture screw out from 1.5 to 3.5 turns out and the problem persists, apart from this the scoot runs well??
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Post by bsr65 on Aug 22, 2014 13:45:42 GMT
fitted the stator to check white to earth, first reading was 00.3, then tried again and all different numbers were flashing up, the white wire is in good nick and the soldered joints look good but used a good quality fluke meter so I think nik's shout is bang on. all way's use B8es on p200's with no problems.
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Post by bsr65 on Aug 22, 2014 9:33:57 GMT
I borrowed a meter to check the stator, oms test for the pick up was 112.7 and 538 for the coil winding which seems fine, still think the stator is the problem though, I have a plastic ngk cap which looks fine but will change it.ht lead is new. Also had a hell of a job getting the damaged woodruff key out, just hope I havn't distorted the crank.
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Post by bsr65 on Aug 18, 2014 15:48:35 GMT
I took the flywheel off today and noticed a bit of damage on the woodruff key and flywheel key slot, also scoring inside the flywheel and on the stator pick up and coils, so looks like someone in the past has fitted the flywheel badly then turned the motor over. Does anyone know if a px125 disc flywheel will fit a px200e disc, I thought they were the same part but the part numbers are different by one number.
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Post by bsr65 on Aug 18, 2014 7:29:28 GMT
Cheers for answers lads, I was sitting at roadwork lights for ages when it just cut out, Initially no spark but when cold as Henri said it fired up and got me home, checked the plug at home and noticed the weak spark. I don't have a meter to test the stator but it looks like the pick up. Will check out twisted rod,s for price, thanks again.
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Post by bsr65 on Aug 17, 2014 18:51:38 GMT
My px200 cut out on way back from a local rally, I changed the plug as the one in was sooty black and checked for a spark (weak spark) then I changed the cdi ( still weak spark). So I recon it must be the stator, Iv'e noticed LML stators on ebay and was hoping someone could say if they were any good. (the ad I was looking at say,s it is an OEM LML stator)
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Post by bsr65 on Aug 8, 2014 19:19:37 GMT
same as joey, I have 2 p200's one with S1 s the other with conti navigators, when I first fitted the conti,s I thought something was wrong going in to a bend, they seem to pull you in, you get used to them after a while.
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Post by bsr65 on Aug 7, 2014 20:25:09 GMT
That one is same as mine, think the two thin one's were for T5's for exhaust clearance, also think the thin one's are fitted to the PX relaunch models, thin one' are defo easier to fit.
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Post by bsr65 on Jul 20, 2014 20:26:47 GMT
Just replaced my throttle cable on same year and model, I tried lubeing the original cable but no joy, taped the new complete cable to the old one and pushed/pulled through the frame, the cable snagged on the plastic tray inside the frame, so had to remove the fuel tank to feed it through.The hole in the tray is about the thickness of a pencil. complete throttle cable from beedspeed £2.75 nice an smooth now.
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Post by bsr65 on Jul 11, 2014 12:01:21 GMT
Probably not this, but years ago I had a flywheel side bearing work it's way out the casing and heat weld it's self on to the crank, I felt it dragging coming up to a circle, then it locked up on the circle. Ive never heard of this happening to anyone else but you never know.
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Post by bsr65 on Jul 9, 2014 19:57:28 GMT
cheers for reply, my mk1 p200e needed a rebore, and a mate gave me one of these pistons (oversize 1) for some work I did for him. think Ill give it a try.
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Post by bsr65 on Jul 9, 2014 15:25:37 GMT
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Post by bsr65 on Jun 7, 2014 18:28:43 GMT
have you checked all the steel plates are flat, if you have a warped one that will cause drag, I once bought a cosa clutch for my mk 1 p200e which dragged badly, and no amount of fettling sorted it, I put the old 7 spring one back in and it worked bang on, you may just have a bad one, good luck with it though
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Post by bsr65 on Jun 5, 2014 21:16:21 GMT
the standard drain plug is 10mm long, I would use a 12mm long button cap allen screw and you will catch the last undamaged thread.
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Post by bsr65 on May 22, 2014 18:52:09 GMT
could be a 2 stroke leak, 17mm nut at the bottom of filler tube, long extension bar with a deep 17mm socket and gently nip up, as can easily be sheared.
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Post by bsr65 on May 18, 2014 20:01:05 GMT
You can buy bicicle tubes with this stuff already fitted, Iv'e got Goop in my tubed vespa wheels and its a bit of peace of mind that when im sitting at 75 mph (aye right) ok 62 mph if I hit a nail the tube won't go bang. this stuff could save your life mate.
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Post by bsr65 on May 10, 2014 9:48:43 GMT
I know its too late but I think Guru's advice earlier in the thread about using leverage (car wheel nut telescopic tool) and getting a mate to press down on the clutch nut tool with his foot would have worked.
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