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Post by kidda on May 10, 2016 7:23:23 GMT
Hiya folks,had an incident yesterday proper so I'm having new tyres and everything!!!decided go for a run out with the good lady on the back,had a puncture and nearly slatted it down the road so getting new tyres and tubes and rims if needed,got michelin S1's on at the moment,just wanted to know what tyres are best for 2 up riding and what rating would you have?I've been looking at conti twist or move365 59M,cheers folks
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Post by bignico2411 on May 10, 2016 8:19:10 GMT
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Post by kidda on May 10, 2016 8:34:36 GMT
Cheers mate already been checking it out,think I'm going go with the move 365 they seem a good all round tyre
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Post by henri on May 10, 2016 8:39:20 GMT
i run moves365's on the managements cosa , love em , never found a sticky-er tyre out there . all weathers/conditions never found the limit of there grip . they dont last as long as harder tyres but 5000 miles of safety for 32 quid cant be beat . H
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Post by bignico2411 on May 10, 2016 8:46:08 GMT
Yeah, good all-rounder, and easy on the pocket!
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Post by bryno on May 10, 2016 9:06:21 GMT
Everyone will have their own fav's,
I have run Mich S83 forever, but last few years they have become so soft a compound I get no more than 1,000 miles, so time for a switch.
Switched to Heidenau k58 on my daily ride, great all year round tyre, not expensive (£25 ish), German made, happy with them.
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Post by kidda on May 10, 2016 9:09:54 GMT
Nice 1 fellas I'll get some ordered and get em on,better to be safe,it's taken me ages get the good lady come out with me and now ers bricking herself after the little incident so trying to reassure her,cheers fellas
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Post by djloone on May 10, 2016 9:49:32 GMT
1000mile Bryno..damn your scoot eats tyres faster than my gsxr!!..conti,s on my vesp..only 150 odd mile on em so far but feel fine (dont think im gonna be getting my knee down though lol)n too hear they fine for 2 up riding..my missis cant wait come out on the scoot....she,s scared of my gixer 1000 n wont get on that  lol LOON-E |
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Post by henri on May 10, 2016 10:32:13 GMT
its not the gx she's scared off ,but the "loon" driving it .your lucky my managements a speed-demon , keeps jabbing me in the ribs n shoutin to go faster . puts you off a bit . H
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Post by bignico2411 on May 10, 2016 11:41:15 GMT
I run Conti K62 whitewalls (not everyone's bag, I know!), but does anyone know of a decent alternative? Never had a problem with the Conti tyres but they do seem to be creeping up in price. I did come across another make (Schwalbe maybe?), but the reviews suggested they were both crap tyres and dangerous
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Post by henri on May 10, 2016 11:51:53 GMT
schalbe , never ,there crap , an the companys answers to problems diabolical . heidanau do good white walls i think .H
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Post by bignico2411 on May 10, 2016 12:05:55 GMT
schalbe , never ,there crap , an the companys answers to problems diabolical . heidanau do good white walls i think .H cheers H, I'll have a nosey! |
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Post by doulsy on May 10, 2016 12:18:20 GMT
schalbe , never ,there crap , an the companys answers to problems diabolical . heidanau do good white walls i think .H Heidanau have sealing problems or so i read, i have conti move but only done a few hundred mile. |
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Post by bignico2411 on May 10, 2016 12:54:52 GMT
Can't see any Heidenau whitewalls, but what about Sava? Decent, or dog sh*t?
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Post by doulsy on May 10, 2016 12:58:32 GMT
Can't see any Heidenau whitewalls, but what about Sava? Decent, or dog sh*t? Made in europe, i think they are good tyres but if you buy from sip they might send replacements, sent my m8 chino tyres when he ordered sava. |
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Post by bignico2411 on May 10, 2016 13:41:27 GMT
Can't see any Heidenau whitewalls, but what about Sava? Decent, or dog sh*t? Made in europe, i think they are good tyres but if you buy from sip they might send replacements, sent my m8 chino tyres when he ordered sava. Thanks for that, doulsy, I'll steer clear of Sip |
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Post by hully1 on May 10, 2016 14:12:13 GMT
just fitted 2 Michelin S1's to mine have only done 1 mile and not sure if they are good or not as felt like I was going to fall off for the whole mile. maybe that is because the old tyres were like racing slicks when I took them off and the new ones just need a bit of wear first. the S1's came highly recommended!!
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Post by pxguru on May 10, 2016 14:40:14 GMT
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Post by henri on May 10, 2016 15:31:44 GMT
all tyres can have sealing problems on tubeless rims not just heidanau's .its why i dont buy fitted tyres/rims ,you need to razor off the mould tags were tyre seals to rim an then there fine .H
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Post by bryno on May 10, 2016 16:12:36 GMT
1000mile Bryno..damn your scoot eats tyres faster than my gsxr!!..conti,s on my vesp..only 150 odd mile on em so far but feel fine (dont think im gonna be getting my knee down though lol)n too hear they fine for 2 up riding..my missis cant wait come out on the scoot....she,s scared of my gixer 1000 n wont get on that lol LOON-E I know, i did exactly 1,000 on an S83 on the rear of my P2, thought it was a fluke so fitted another and got exactly the same, they must have changed the formula, shame as I have run them for years. |
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Post by djloone on May 10, 2016 17:00:35 GMT
Granted ive not kept up with scooter tyres since the late 80s..n back then it was just buy tyres..not a 2nd thought for make/model etc.surely they,ve moved on enough for all of em too be safe n meet our needs...i can understand sportsbike tyres having too evolve over the yrs as bhp/torque n top speed went up..but our scoots have generally stayed the same..playing devils advocate id say they should all be ok...disclaimer ..ive never heard of scwalbe or heidenau, are th realy that bad?..dont thnk they were about when i last bought rubber lol
LOON-E
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Post by bryno on May 10, 2016 19:56:30 GMT
Heidenau's K58 'snow' tyre came top in a Scootering Mag test which is how I discovered them, ran these for a couple of winters, the ones I've now got are the all year round versions they are made in Germany not Far East like just about everything else.
I find every tyre feels different, as well as the obvious grip level lots of variance in sidewall strength, some I have tried are too hard (usually those designed for tubeless are stiffer) and some too soft, like the winter tyres I ran which are soft rubber so they still stay pliable in the cold, but in the warm they are too soft.. each to their own choice.
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Post by ianmartin40 on May 10, 2016 21:14:16 GMT
Hi Kidda
After reading about other scoot riders having pant soiling moments on tubed tyres I opted for tubeless as the magazines claim they are safer to use, other riders also fill their tyres with goop to stop the instant deflation if punctured and therefore make safer so this may also be worth considering.
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Post by bignico2411 on May 11, 2016 8:13:35 GMT
all tyres can have sealing problems on tubeless rims not just heidanau's .its why i dont buy fitted tyres/rims ,you need to razor off the mould tags were tyre seals to rim an then there fine .H H, do you mean the little bits of excess rubber right at the tyre's edge? |
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Post by henri on May 11, 2016 9:18:47 GMT
no ,thats properly called "flashing" , i mean the little sticky up bits ,bout 4-5mm long an a 1mm thick ,the knobblies bits ,there all over the outside of the tyre across the tread . H
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Post by bignico2411 on May 11, 2016 9:31:02 GMT
no ,thats properly called "flashing" , i mean the little sticky up bits ,bout 4-5mm long an a 1mm thick ,the knobblies bits ,there all over the outside of the tyre across the tread . H Ah, you mean what I call the 'hairs'!! |
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Post by kidda on May 11, 2016 23:08:51 GMT
Maybe a bit of useless information here,the knoblies/hairs are caused by tiny little vents in the curing press when the tyre is being made so the air can escape whilst the tread is being moulded so you don't get a bad moulding of the tread pattern.
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Post by kidda on May 11, 2016 23:10:31 GMT
Or tyre
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Post by henri on May 12, 2016 6:17:33 GMT
cheers kidda , ive always called em mould tags . just had a set of lammie tubeless rims an sip performer tyres delivered for a mate .tyres look ok , will report back ,as not used em before ,when theres some miles on them . H
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Post by kidda on May 12, 2016 8:06:57 GMT
I've ordered some conti move365 and got some heavy duty tubes and gloop so all being well should have them on over the weekend,I'll report back with my findings when I take the back wheel off wether it was the tyre,tube,valve or rim that has failed,cheers
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