Post by sime66 on May 4, 2016 10:10:10 GMT
Chaps, this engine mounts malarkey is a job I haven’t tackled before, and I have to do it twice in the next few months, and I could really do with some help getting the correct bits – on:
VLX1M-6033** = ‘1983 PX150E Arcobaleno’ – EFL (Old Faithful), doing that one first, and then
VLX1M-4335** = ‘1982 PX150E’ (The Beast – now also EFL)
The casings have minor differences, but the only thing that might be relevant is that the rear shock bolt is M10 on 1983 and M9 on 1982, though I think I can get the same shock mount rubber for both, with new M10 bushes.
From what I can gather T5 and PX200 have equal sized left and right main engine mounts, and 125s and 150s have different size ones like this (VE10146), which I think I could use for both engines:
Given that these are nearly £20 with postage, and even more from VE Supermarket with their £7.50 post! (More than buying the same item from Germany – shame on you VE), and also that slightly better than standard might be a good idea (without spending fortunes on Polyurethane mounts), I had a look at SIP and ScooterCentre, and found these BGM ones:
www.scooter-center.com/en/product/BGM7951/Silentblocks+kit+engine+BGM+PRO+Vespa+PX80+PX125+PX150+Sprint150+VLB1T+TS125+VNL3T+GT125+VNL2T+GTR125+VNL2T+Super+GL150+VLA1T+VNA+VNB+VBA+VBB
AND:
www.scooter-center.com/en/product/BGM7956/Silent+rubber+set+shock+absorberengine+BGM+PRO+Made+in+Germany+10mm+x+48mm+Vespa+PX+1984+T5+125cc+PK
I think I can use that shock mount for both (M10 x48mm – none of the M9 ones list any PXs as a fit). I suppose to be sure I’ll have to check the internal diameter of the hole for the rubber on each engine casing; I don’t want to overcomplicate it, but I certainly don’t want to order the wrong items either.
So that’s what I think I’ve sussed out; here’s just a final couple of questions to help me order the right bits; this is new to me and each time I’ve looked at it before I’ve ended up putting off making a decision because I’ve been unsure, but I need these jobs done now:
1) Am I right that the VE10146-type mounts are correct for my engines?
2) Do you chaps reckon these BGM ones are a worthwhile improvement on the VE ones? – I cannot find any that state 'Piaggio' or 'OEM' (lots of SIP listings out of stock; maybe obsolete), although there are LML ones on SIP, and €30 (£24) posted from Scootercentre for the BGM ones isn’t actually much more anyway, especially if I add some more stuff to the order.
3) Is this rear shock mount dimension critical, or are they all the same and I’m being overcautious with the dimensions when there isn’t any difference? I suppose the only way to be sure is to measure both of them; I guess I’ll do that, but is it simpler than I’m making it?
Any help or advice will be appreciated; thanks, chaps.
VLX1M-6033** = ‘1983 PX150E Arcobaleno’ – EFL (Old Faithful), doing that one first, and then
VLX1M-4335** = ‘1982 PX150E’ (The Beast – now also EFL)
The casings have minor differences, but the only thing that might be relevant is that the rear shock bolt is M10 on 1983 and M9 on 1982, though I think I can get the same shock mount rubber for both, with new M10 bushes.
From what I can gather T5 and PX200 have equal sized left and right main engine mounts, and 125s and 150s have different size ones like this (VE10146), which I think I could use for both engines:
Given that these are nearly £20 with postage, and even more from VE Supermarket with their £7.50 post! (More than buying the same item from Germany – shame on you VE), and also that slightly better than standard might be a good idea (without spending fortunes on Polyurethane mounts), I had a look at SIP and ScooterCentre, and found these BGM ones:
www.scooter-center.com/en/product/BGM7951/Silentblocks+kit+engine+BGM+PRO+Vespa+PX80+PX125+PX150+Sprint150+VLB1T+TS125+VNL3T+GT125+VNL2T+GTR125+VNL2T+Super+GL150+VLA1T+VNA+VNB+VBA+VBB
AND:
www.scooter-center.com/en/product/BGM7956/Silent+rubber+set+shock+absorberengine+BGM+PRO+Made+in+Germany+10mm+x+48mm+Vespa+PX+1984+T5+125cc+PK
I think I can use that shock mount for both (M10 x48mm – none of the M9 ones list any PXs as a fit). I suppose to be sure I’ll have to check the internal diameter of the hole for the rubber on each engine casing; I don’t want to overcomplicate it, but I certainly don’t want to order the wrong items either.
So that’s what I think I’ve sussed out; here’s just a final couple of questions to help me order the right bits; this is new to me and each time I’ve looked at it before I’ve ended up putting off making a decision because I’ve been unsure, but I need these jobs done now:
1) Am I right that the VE10146-type mounts are correct for my engines?
2) Do you chaps reckon these BGM ones are a worthwhile improvement on the VE ones? – I cannot find any that state 'Piaggio' or 'OEM' (lots of SIP listings out of stock; maybe obsolete), although there are LML ones on SIP, and €30 (£24) posted from Scootercentre for the BGM ones isn’t actually much more anyway, especially if I add some more stuff to the order.
3) Is this rear shock mount dimension critical, or are they all the same and I’m being overcautious with the dimensions when there isn’t any difference? I suppose the only way to be sure is to measure both of them; I guess I’ll do that, but is it simpler than I’m making it?
Any help or advice will be appreciated; thanks, chaps.