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Post by hully1 on Apr 2, 2016 12:11:20 GMT
Hi all,
My sons electric start engine has a crack in the casing and I am looking to swop for a spare engine I have which is non battery non electric start will there be any problems alterations with the electrics on his scoot when I put my lump in?
Cheers in advance.
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Post by henri on Apr 2, 2016 12:17:44 GMT
just tape up the leads an tuck out the way ,so they cant short out . wiring at engine/junction box is the same ,so straight swap . no other changes needed . an its time the lazy tyke learnt what one of his legs is for , kick-startin his scoot . the younger generation eh,leccy start , i dont know what the worlds comin too . H
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Post by hully1 on Apr 2, 2016 12:22:17 GMT
Cheers H I know they don't know they are born these days. He just laughs at me when I get to kick number 10 and it still ain't started?  time for pay back. |
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Post by sime66 on Apr 6, 2016 15:48:27 GMT
Hi Hully, You'd have no problems, if your son changed his own engine. Just a thought....  |
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Post by hully1 on Apr 7, 2016 7:29:42 GMT
HAHA your right there Sime. the plan is this year to build a bit of a workshop (Mancave) in the back garden so work on the scoots can be done in comfort rather than waiting for the one nice summer day in the northeast to cram all the works into, then we can sit there together watching the sausage DVD (fnar fnar) to gather the knowledge to carry out engine rebuilds etc etc.
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Post by sime66 on Apr 7, 2016 8:07:33 GMT
It's actually quite a quick and easy job; I've done it in my garden a few times now; I have no shed either. Lashing the front down to get her arse in the air helped – I made a board/ramp with a front wheel chock - even easier with two of you.
Sausage shows disconnecting and removing the engine very well; he doesn't show putting it back in, but it's just the reverse; slow and steady once you've manhandled it up and got the main bolt through.
Electrics is just five wires; three to CDI, two to loom - simple.
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Post by henri on Apr 7, 2016 8:29:48 GMT
not watched sausage , so dont know if selecter box's covered .but a trick is to not disconnect the gear cables an just pop selecter box off an swap it to new engine . but as your going from "lazy start" to "real men kick" i'm thinking you best swap cables as i'm thinking theres a good chance selecters/gearboxes will be different . its always handy to have a few new cable inners around , as if there kinked/crushed by trunnions they can be difficult/impossible to re-thread thru trunnions .
an 1 trick ive learnt fitting lumps on my own is instead of tryin to manhandle engine into frame , with wheel on prop it up an slide frame onto engine .with forks n front wheel on chassis moves easy an is much lighter .H
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Post by sime66 on Apr 7, 2016 8:40:00 GMT
Sausage leaves the cables connected to the selector box, as you say, H.
Good point though, about the change of selector box from early PX to EFL gearboxes; are they both EFL Hully?
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Post by hully1 on Apr 7, 2016 11:39:57 GMT
Hi Sime,
mine is an 84 EFL and the boys is an 02 plate so should be the same I believe. I could just get him to do it whilst I watch from a deckchair drinking beer, that will be my best option. swopping engines I have done before will be using sausage more for the stripping/rebuilding of his cracked engine which will end up in my new scoot once I have located one as a project, watching DJ loone's thread has inspired me to do a chop again!!
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Post by djloone on Apr 7, 2016 13:42:47 GMT
Should be a easy swap n get a chop started mate..who needs roadholding/handling/speed and stability when you can cruise round with the music blasting making everyone stare at ya  ..works for me LOON-E |
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Post by hully1 on Apr 7, 2016 14:19:22 GMT
i cant wait to get into sorting the chop out mate just need a donor scoot to do it too if you know of any cheap scoots with V5 kicking about doesn't need to have the engine as I have a spare
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Post by henri on Apr 7, 2016 17:06:58 GMT
the dreaded "facebooger/faecesbook" ,youve a son bet he's got a profile ,scoots with v5's come up often on there . or cruise ebay for a lml ,there loads cheaper an nobody gets funny n slags ya for cutting/chopping a curry burner .H
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Post by hully1 on Apr 8, 2016 7:19:50 GMT
hi h,
I have been checking them all but it is probably the wrong time to be looking for scoots as some have been ridiculously priced for what I want it for, the search will however continue.
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Post by henri on Apr 8, 2016 8:07:16 GMT
i dont know , seen a few cheapys pop up recent , but they was smallframes , the discerning gentlemans choice of toy, seen a few large frames aswell . its the time of year when whole runnin scoots go up in value as sun n seasons here ,an projects go down .an people realise another winters been an theve not done owt an its time to let go . have a gander on t5 pages ,there always gettin there lumps blown an being sold as engine less chassis ,or bought n lump robbed an rest offered out . the t5 classic is a px frame n t5 lump ,minus the engine an its often sold cheap . H
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Post by sime66 on Apr 8, 2016 8:40:51 GMT
people realise another winters been an theve not done owt Speak for yourself, I'm due a mid-season break from playing with engines; time to enjoy the fruits of my over-Winter labour............ |
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Post by djloone on Apr 8, 2016 9:50:47 GMT
My winters been productive!! , will keep a eye open for a suitable frame/machine Hully LOON-E |
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Post by hully1 on Apr 8, 2016 13:16:12 GMT
Cheers guys!
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time for pay back. 
..works for me