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Post by dazonit on Jul 26, 2015 16:08:00 GMT
I'm wanting a bit more power out of my px125 Im thinking of fitting a malossi 166 kit and a race crank but if been oferd a p200e engine with a 210 malossi piston and cylinder it needs a carb and the guy has never had it running as he never used it but says its got good compression he wants £350 for it
A malossi kit and crank will cost £260
What do you guys think
Cheers
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Post by vespasco on Jul 26, 2015 16:13:27 GMT
Bite his hand off
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Post by djloone on Jul 26, 2015 16:50:42 GMT
Take it..now :)or put me in touch with him n i,ll have it  LOON-E |
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Post by dazonit on Jul 26, 2015 16:50:46 GMT
Just seems alot of money when it might be dead or cost loads to get running
What do these go for ?
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Post by dazonit on Jul 26, 2015 17:54:02 GMT
Anyone there ?
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Post by bryno on Jul 26, 2015 17:56:24 GMT
It's easily a £500 engine engine if it's all ok, you will need to make your own call on if you think he's genuine..
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Post by rab on Jul 26, 2015 18:28:24 GMT
if you buy an engine that you have never seen running get him to give you a receipt stating it all runs fine. turn the engine make sure its not seized if its not and you hear no grinding or scrape noises any fix if its bust wont kill your wallet.a p200 engine would set you back at least 500 minimum normally for a bog standard engine this one comes kitted its got a molossi on it so will rattle like a bag of sh*te when running anyway they all do
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Post by dazonit on Jul 26, 2015 20:13:16 GMT
Thanks for the replys I think I'll give it a go it will keep me out of trouble if nothing else
Atb cheers daz
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Post by bryno on Jul 27, 2015 12:02:50 GMT
if you buy an engine that you have never seen running get him to give you a receipt stating it all runs fine. turn the engine make sure its not seized if its not and you hear no grinding or scrape noises any fix if its bust wont kill your wallet.a p200 engine would set you back at least 500 minimum normally for a bog standard engine this one comes kitted its got a molossi on it so will rattle like a bag of sh*te when running anyway they all do The seller says he's never run it so its just going to be a leap of faith you'll not get him to guarantee anything. As Rab says, do turn it over yourself and check the obvious.. like it is actually a 200 on the engine number and the kit is actually stamped Malossi And check if the seller is the one who built it, not one of those 'got it off a mate 10 years ago who said it was mint'... Worth a punt, but any doubts and I'd knock the price down a bit to allow yourself some rebuild cash.. |
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Post by henri on Jul 27, 2015 12:14:16 GMT
i'd snatch his arm off if engine turns , even if it needs new seals n bearing its still going to be cheaper than a stock/tired p200 lump , as above buying any scoot/engine is a leap of faith .as bryno says go n see if ya can have a deal with the guy an any hint of shady-ness an walk away .H
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Post by dazonit on Jul 28, 2015 13:24:47 GMT
Got it for £320 its turns over fine and the piston and cylinder seem to be in good nick .
Should I strip it and re build it new gaskets and bearing or try get it running first it needs a card the guy said a delorto 26 would be fine
I'll look on ebay for one also needs a down pipe for the steering exhaust (anyone know were I can get one)
I'll add pics if I can
What do you guys think
Cheers daz
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Post by bryno on Jul 28, 2015 13:54:07 GMT
Sounds a good result, does it look like its been rebuilt? all nice and clean? if so personally I'd stick it in an get it going not bother to strip it down unless it needs a seal replacing.
24 or 26mm carb fine with a 210, search on line for a starting point on jetting for the kit and carb.
Worth checking the timing is correctly set for that kit as well.
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Post by henri on Jul 28, 2015 15:13:32 GMT
bargain , as bryno says stick it in n see what its like , if ya start ripping it apart all the little bits you can do as precautions when cases are apart (o-rings/kickstart rubbers/cruccy/cush drive /etc) soon add up an delay ya enjoying whats left of summer ,plenty of winter evenings to "play doctor" on it ,
"scooterotica" has a list of jettings n set ups ,an also "german scooter forum" has lots more ,sift thru an you'll prob find some ballpark figures to work from ,the kraut site has it under "large frame set up" .H
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Post by dazonit on Jul 28, 2015 19:22:56 GMT
Its not re built bryno the bloke I got it of said its a tuned mk1 p200e motor bought for a project that isnt going ahead its got a molossi 210 good compression just needs carb and cdi bracket exhaust needs down pipe i it will probably want a rebuild its just as i got it.
This is how it was described to me so a leap of faith looks like its been ported
The cylinder bolts were loose and there were no gaskets onit I have orders a set off the net any one know were I'll get a down pipe for the steering exhaust ?
I can't post pics don't no how
Henri what are the adreses for the sites mate
Cheers daz
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Post by doulsy on Jul 28, 2015 20:31:57 GMT
hypocrites, you lot told me a stock p200 was best lol
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Post by henri on Jul 29, 2015 7:11:51 GMT
google the stuff between quotation marks an scooterotica will come up , lfs.alexander-hepp.de/ , an this hopefully will take ya straight to the german site , if not go to vespasmallframe forum ,tech section an thread jetting on a polini 130 ,scroll down an the moderator juan links it for me there . ok, an doulsy ,well sort off , but best engine is like a bird ,the one ya got is better than 1 in bush , an this was local to him , H |
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Post by bryno on Jul 29, 2015 12:49:20 GMT
Personally I'd still take stock motor any day, I have to be sure to get to work on time everyday ;-)
If it needs a bit of a rebuild then at the least open it up and check cruciform and change the 2 crank oil seals, and check the main bearings feel ok and look at the clutch plates. If it don't look great in there then a full rebuild may be in order and a total strip down, either way, still ok at £320!
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Post by henri on Jul 29, 2015 15:43:18 GMT
on my hack/daily commute scoot i'm with bryno , tuned scoots can be beggars to start if "the winds in wrong direction" ,last thing i need on my way to daily drudgery n toil is a impromptu "jogging" session bumping a recalcitrant scoot down the road .tho neighbours n missus seem to get a laugh out of it ,cant see the joke myself .
on a weekend toy/thrash scoot ,well the jogging is healthy n makes up for beer n chips ya goin to have at half-way point , so is acceptable , H
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Post by doulsy on Jul 29, 2015 19:45:04 GMT
not trying to hijack your thread Daz, don't want to start another p200 thread, anyhow when i drive my p200 with the 125 engine i feel as if i have to up the gears in seconds and sounds as if it rattling its head off lol, what i want to know is, is there gonna be a great improvement when i have my rebuilt 200 engine back init?
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Post by henri on Jul 30, 2015 9:10:59 GMT
yes , thats the short answer ,too hungover to say the long 1 , H
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Post by doulsy on Jul 31, 2015 22:21:10 GMT
yes , thats the short answer ,too hungover to say the long 1 , H thanks, i was worried that i might be wasting money on a 200 rebuild when i could be buying more fred perry's and looking cooler  |
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