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Post by Feed Your Head on Apr 24, 2007 7:05:38 GMT
Got my MOT on thursday. been advised to take off any lamps that are not wired in before i bring it in for the test. Question is, should i want to wire them in eventually,( never bothered before but the thought now sounds intreguing) how do i go about it? I've got 4 marker lights at the back, 2 at the front, + four spots at the front..  |
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Post by Spence on Apr 24, 2007 11:33:30 GMT
Who told you to take off the lights that aren't wired?
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Post by Feed Your Head on Apr 24, 2007 12:38:48 GMT
the blokes at the vespa/ piaggio garage where it is being MOT'd. I was always under assumption it didn't matter, but they said that if they're on there they should be in working order. |
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Post by jackthekipper on Apr 24, 2007 18:28:00 GMT
wow,what a set of nob heads,can't you find somewhere else.  |
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Post by dave1967 on Apr 24, 2007 18:47:11 GMT
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Thats the biggets load of crap I have ever heard. They only have to work if there wired up to a switch.If they fail your scoot call the Ministry Of Transport and report them, Ask them to show you where it states that a light thats not wired has to work. Point out that 90% of jap cars have rear fogs that dont work and they are wired up but not to a switch.
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Post by Spence on Apr 24, 2007 20:04:38 GMT
The rule about added spots and lamps on cars is that if they work, they have to be symmetrical (ie if you look at the car from the front and draw an imaginary line down the middle, the lights have to be exactly the same on both sides).
It must be different for bikes, because some motorbikes have asymmetrical headlamps, and Lambretta Rallymasters and the like that have one spot on one side of the legshields don't fail their MOT.
You can also be given a ticket for having ornaments that could cause unnecessary additional injury in a collision, but when was the last time you heard of a Jag being failed for its hood ornament?
Anyway, I'm ranting now. They're talking b*ll*cks about the lights having to be wired up.
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Post by Feed Your Head on Apr 24, 2007 20:40:25 GMT
thought they might be. won't chance it this time tho...glad to know that my assumptions for the past number of years was right. Just thought it might have been a new rule brought in. How on earth those with loads more lamps would be affected i don't know lol.
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alps
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Post by alps on Apr 25, 2007 5:47:15 GMT
any way, enough of this bull sh**#ing with the mot knobs, your lights should be wired up. the more the better. if your really thinking about wireing them up theres a good step by step guide on the lamberetta clubs web site. it gave me a good insight how to do it, basicaly you need to run a live cable from your battery to a junction box then wire up your lights to the junction box / fuse / switch. wow ive just read what i've wrote and its sounds dead easy....NOT...ask jed from l.s.c it took us 2 weekends loads of cable (wrong type being used) lots of visits to motorworld and loads of t-bags. but they look good now when there all on. ps do they make a 24v battery the size of a 12v battery??  |
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Post by alanw on May 1, 2007 8:52:14 GMT
May be of interest on my lammy (i do own two vespas as well) i have wired up 6 spot lights and 2 rear marker lights using NO battery the spots are wired from the headlight main beam position, the two rear marker lights to the stop lights All the bulbs have been changed to gas discharge(bright white) look LEDs, some bulbs were available as a direct fit to the bulb holder some i had to modify ,also changed the brake light bulbs to LED as well all the LEDs add to about 5 watts or less, when the head light main beam is used there is no drop at all in light output from the head light when the all the spots come on the same goes for brakelights no headlight dimming what so ever The bulbs are a wee bit expensive but the life are at least 10 times longer Also the wiring can be low voltage as again there is very low current draw from LEDs works for me no problem up to now  |
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Post by Spence on May 4, 2007 20:30:02 GMT
Here's one for the spotters:
Vehicle Construction & Use Regulations, Reg 18 and Schedule 1 states only that on a solo motorcycle (first used after 01/01/56) the minimum number of headlamps is one, which should be on the centre line of the vehicle OR any distance from the side of the vehicle provided another is fitted making a pair. Both then become obligatory.
Schedule 2 states that any number of front position lamps may be fitted, but on a solo motorcycle first used after 01/04/91 the maximum number is two.
Reg 23 states that all lights fitted must be kept clean and in good working order.
Let's hope no MOT monkeys ever pick up the book and read it properly.
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