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Post by tdipower on Apr 11, 2007 18:10:56 GMT
Hi folks, hopefully you have read my 'Hi there' in the newbe bit.
I have a PX125E on a D reg. its got a for racing only head piston 28mm carb.
Now basicly i want to get this thing back on the road as a out of the box standard unit. I have no idea on the cost of parts other than from what i have found on the net.
Has anyone done a full rebuild on one??
Basicly the only things that dont need replacing are the 'frame' forks, engine/gearbox casing, most of the insides are ok too. But all the wiring , cables, carb, head, speedo, tyres, seat, grommets, screews, bolts, trim will need replacing.
Is this a daft idea would i be better off getting a runner. The work isnt a problem its more of the finacial issue.
Pete
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Post by dunworking on Apr 12, 2007 9:52:05 GMT
 Hi Pete, the good news is everything is available for a full rebuild and after working on land Rovers it should be a doddle. After buying parts for classic cars I have found scooter parts very cheap (unless you have a GS Vespa or SX Lammy). However i have found that its the small bits that end up driving the rebuild cost up. First join a local club for good help and advise, some of the members may even have parts you want at a lower cost than normal. For the rest use scooter rally's or ebay carefully!! I am doing a part rebuild on my Sprint at the moment - full engine and gearbox, wiring loom, all cables, most nuts and bolts, all grommets etc and it has cost me around £250. That includes buying a spare engine/gearbox to rebuild as I wanted to start that part before I took my scoot off the road. Obviously you will have extra costs such as the respray, tyres (really cheap after buying runflats for my Mini), seat etc and you may find that you could buy a runner for less. However, if your into pulling things apart you would probably only start a running restoration on that one anyway! good luck Sean
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Post by bryno on Apr 12, 2007 11:58:48 GMT
Good advice from Sean there, I was also suprised at how cheap parts are compared to cars I've restored in the past. However I've also been suprised at the poor quality of many of the aftermarket parts I've bought, now I generally prefer to refurbish rather than replace, so once you have stripped it, try to keep as much as you can that is not beyond help..
Planning on stripping down my T5 for a total body repaint soon, so be interested in seeing your progress..
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Post by tdipower on Apr 12, 2007 17:02:33 GMT
Yeah im going to do lots of pics. Always helps on the rebuild too. One thing i could do with getting is pics of PX125E as they came out of the factory, see what should and shouldn't be painted etc. First thing I did with the Landy was to get a parts book so i knew what to ask for (although lots of parts were given new numbers when improved etc, it gave a good start point). From my hunts on the net all i have managed to find is what looks to be a very old doc www.scooterhelp.com/serial/VNX1T.VSX1T.parts.book.htmlI did find the www.scooterhelp.com site quite good. Im just quite surprised there isnt anything newer considering how long the scoot has been going. Pete |
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Post by mrsm on Apr 12, 2007 18:56:36 GMT
see what should and shouldn't be painted Blimey! Someone's just put a can of Holts spray paint all over mine without any thought! ;D Sounds like you're gonna do a superb job. Hmmmm, fancy another painting project after you've finished this one?!!!  Mrs M |
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Post by bryno on Apr 12, 2007 19:50:36 GMT
I've got the 1980's sales brochure in my loft somewhere if you need to check anything specific, you can probably pick one up on Ebay cheap enough.. or there is a good few books on Vespa with detailed pics of the PX..
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Post by tdipower on Apr 12, 2007 20:14:49 GMT
well. the engine is currently what looks to be pink hammerite. i think ill finish stripping all the engine and running gear, get all that sandblasted and built up, then get the frame and other metal blasted, start with a coat of high buld etch primer, 2 coats of grey primer then a white before it gets a nice yellow 2 pack colour.
should the brake drums be body or metal coloured??
im not going to go down the chrome nuts route, might use stainless though.
i dont do air brush work... im more of an engineer than artist. but pannels are ok to do.
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Post by dunworking on Apr 12, 2007 20:22:10 GMT
I bought a used original "Catalogue of Spare Parts” for my Sprint off ebay, I think it was only about £8 but has been worth it weight in gold during this rebuild. Especially when your not sure what should be where and for checking which little bits are missing as you strip it down. For instance mine didn't have the little top hat ferrules and without the parts book I wouldn't have known they were missing.
Definitely a must have for anyone without previous experience!
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Post by tdipower on Apr 12, 2007 20:32:44 GMT
Dunworking is it better than this??http://www.scooterhelp.com/serial/VNX1T.VSX1T.parts.book.html
or the same old age 'X' marks the treasure map type thing
Pete
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Post by bryno on Apr 13, 2007 10:19:11 GMT
Brake drums are a flat silver same as the wheel rims, forks are a light satin grey, engine sounds nice  should be unpainted alloy with the exception of the brake back plate, flywheel cover & carb cover, mine on the T5 are all black, but think they were silver on the PX.. |
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Post by dunworking on Apr 13, 2007 19:22:02 GMT
Dunworking is it better than this??http://www.scooterhelp.com/serial/VNX1T.VSX1T.parts.book.html or the same old age 'X' marks the treasure map type thing Pete Hi Pete, no mine’s a genuine old age Vespa/Piaggio book (even smells old) the parts drawings are quite detailed. Only problem i find is that a lot of places don’t use the old part numbers, but at least you know what the part looks like at parts fairs! It doesn’t tell you what bits are painted or how they're finished though. Using this and a Haynes manual I've managed to answer most of my questions. The rest I have posted here and the guys (and girls) have answered them for me. I also find it much easier to look at a hard copy rather than using scooterhelps version, although you could download the pdf file and print that. The Scooterhelp site is very good for all sorts of info though cheers Sean. |
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Hi Pete, the good news is everything is available for a full rebuild and after working on land Rovers it should be a doddle.
should be unpainted alloy with the exception of the brake back plate, flywheel cover & carb cover, mine on the T5 are all black, but think they were silver on the PX..