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Post by sterice (Ricey) on Aug 15, 2008 21:54:32 GMT
I had to dispose of my lucky undies today after the Rally appeared to heat seize in the inside line of the M57 on the way home from work.
Driving along merrily when the back wheel locked up and had to take emergency measures to ensure that I stayed upright. Pulled the clutch and managed to pull over on to the hard shoulder as the scoot pulled to a halt. I say it was a heat seize as it the first time I have ever encountered something like this and the fact that the scoot kicked over first time and got me home with no further problems indicated that nothing serious happened.
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Post by Spence on Aug 15, 2008 22:09:09 GMT
That does indeed sound like a heat seize Steve, as my first and only one so far was identical on the A55 coming back from Llandudno. I let it cool down for 20 min or so, put a glug of 2-stroke straight into the tank (I was on an autolube PX at the time) to be on the safe side, then took it easy the rest of the way without mishap.
Does give you a bout of the old "half a crown, sixpence" though doesn't it? Especially when there's an HGV right behind you.
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Post by Devo McDuff on Aug 15, 2008 22:40:50 GMT
Don't like the sound of that, nearly had to change my gruds just reading it It seems quite a common thing, based on this forum. If you get the clutch in in time, is the likelihood that you will be fan dabby?
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Post by Spence on Aug 15, 2008 23:08:17 GMT
Yes, there is this almost mythological "pinking" noise that we're supposed to listen out for, which is apparently a tell-tale sign that you're about to heat-seize.
I have been told that I should keep my clutch lever at all times, just in case it happens, which I have to say I don't agree with. I didn't have my hand on my clutch when I heat seized and I still managed to get it in in time. I think doing 60mph on a dual carriageway with no hard shoulder and an HGV doing 56mph behind you is more than enough incentive to get your clutch in sharpish in the event of a seize.
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Post by marshie on Aug 16, 2008 9:32:55 GMT
Blimey!! Don't fancy that sort of brown trouser episode. Heard about Lammies seizing all the time but didn't realize it was as common with Vespas. Is it a Rally thing??
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Post by Devo McDuff on Aug 16, 2008 9:59:31 GMT
I naturally ride with my fingers on the clutch lever anyway, which could be lucky one day Am I right in thinking it's a more prevalent phenomenon with scoots that have been modded from the default setup?
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Post by Smallframe on Aug 16, 2008 15:01:04 GMT
I've heard of far more vespas siezing than lammies over the years. I've heard mainly lammies holing their pistons.
Nice one ricey, you probably caught it in time, I've siezed the smally and its still singing ok.
What speed?throttle opening were you at, you tall b*st**d ?
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Post by sterice (Ricey) on Aug 16, 2008 19:00:41 GMT
Hard to say what speed Mike as the clock does 60 standing still ;D ;D , did check it a couple of mile before and it was touching 95ish, that’s KPM by the way . Didn’t have time to think, automatically pulled the clutch in and never hit the brakes. It locked up and the back wheel almost passed my as it can around to catch up with the front one, must have looked good from behind. Luckily the motorway was empty Spence so never had added worry of anything behind me. Back out on it tomorrow for the A57’s ride out so should give it a good run and see how it go’s
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Post by Smallframe on Aug 17, 2008 8:04:31 GMT
100kpm is 62mph, vintage shopping trolleys and motorways don;t mix well together, but thats a price you pay for looking good ricey. Leave motorways fot the gts mate.
You can now rinse that motor good style cos its probably f**ked any way LOL
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Post by sirscootalot on Aug 19, 2008 20:34:21 GMT
glad your safe mate, it sounds scary
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Post by rivierarob on Sept 8, 2008 18:25:10 GMT
Happened to me a while back on a P2 on the outside lane whilst overtaking a flatbed truck........the immediate reduction in speed and pulling the clutch in meant I was able to pull in behind the truck and pull over to the hard shoulder........
Think it's the point in your life when you realise adrenaline is brown!!
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Post by skrappey on Sept 10, 2008 17:41:22 GMT
I always put extra two stroke in on a long/fast run. As mine has a 180 on the reasoning is that the autolube is set for a 125, therefore not enough lube for a 180. I use an extra 1% and haven't had any trouble, so far.
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Post by retrogirl on Sept 17, 2008 14:55:09 GMT
:(Was it you or my old scoot that needed a change of under wear! you must be too rough with her! be nice lol ;D
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Post by sterice (Ricey) on Sept 17, 2008 18:49:42 GMT
Don’t worry Jan she’s still purring along merrily. She even took me and the good lady wife to see the A57’s a couple of Sundays ago, how we ever drove to France on my old Rally packed to the hilt with camping gear and the wifes two weeks of clothes is beyond me, might be due the fact we were both slightly slimmer then ;D.
I’ll tell her you were worried, and by her I do mean the Rally and not the wife. Planning to strip her down and do a full restoration over the winter – and by the way I do mean the wife this time ;D ;D ;D.
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Post by Devo McDuff on Mar 8, 2009 12:05:57 GMT
I joined the club yesterday on the M56, pretty much identical to Ricey's scenario. I can confirm that a new pair of Lonsdale boxers will now be needed!
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Post by Robjack on Mar 8, 2009 20:22:07 GMT
Ouch. How long was the skidmark Dan?
(coat etc.)
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Post by zeppelin on Mar 20, 2009 10:04:09 GMT
Ouch. How long was the skidmark Dan? Which skidmark are you talking about, Robjack? (coat etc.)
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