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Post by outkastmike on Apr 2, 2017 10:26:09 GMT
Newbie question.....If you were to put a p200 into an early model Sprint what else electrically would be to change with regard to the 6v & 12v differences
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Post by henri on Apr 2, 2017 13:25:01 GMT
brake light switch ,lighting switch an either change or alter loom .depends on is it a p200/points or px200 electronic ignition engine . an also rear of carb box will probably foul the frame ,10 mins with molegrips or pliers an it will be fine .H
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Post by mijapxman on Apr 3, 2017 17:36:22 GMT
Just a wee correction, all p200e ( that's the engine I have) and px200e vespas are 12volt electronic ignition. ( I know Henri knows his stuff, so think it's a typo)😉😉😉
Or if I'm wrong, Henri can put me right and I'll apologise and have learned something new. 😀
Outkastmike, if you google Beedspeed wiring diagram and look at the images, it may help.
Ride safe
Jim ( mij)
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Post by henri on Apr 3, 2017 18:10:33 GMT
the answers in the "e" , =electronic .very early p series were still points an 6 volt . in answer to ya message, i answered thinkin it was about the frame thread ,but answer to thread an message still stands .no offence taken by me mate .forum= a place to discuss an learn ,every days a skool day mate ,when ya stop learning ya dead .only this morn i mistakenly told somebod 50speshes started in 78 , whilst sat typing nxt to my 72 spesh , doh,trusted beedys model ident page . did i blush ,no i brazened it out an blamed the coffee not working right,an in self punishment am workin on a killer hangover for the morning . alls good , ride safer than me ,i'm a "holy terror" on 2 wheels . H
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Post by mijapxman on Apr 3, 2017 22:31:20 GMT
Just to clarify, my thinking was, all Italian Vespa 200 engines with manual gearchange had electronic ignition.
The Rally 200, 6 volt electronic, later ones had 12 volt electronic I believe, using the same ( complete)engine that was used in the P200e.
P200e and PX200e had 12 volt electronic.
I don't have a Scooby about Spanish 200 etc ☺
Cheers
Jim.
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Post by henri on Apr 4, 2017 7:38:20 GMT
to clarify back , rally engines had the femsa (spanish) 6 volt electronic ignition ,an are different engines to p200's in a few ways .femsa was not trusted so a fair few were retro-fitted with points anyway .early p200's came in either points or electronic ,the flywheels having both a points cam an adjustment hole an a trigger point for lectronics .
the spanish being awkward stuck with femsa on most of there scoots , gt160/gt180's , rally clones .an switched to ducatti on there tx200's ,a t5 body with p200e engine .
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Post by mijapxman on Apr 4, 2017 16:35:37 GMT
To clarify, clarify, back, 😉 lol, yip had a femsa 6v electronic scoot, know all about the flywheels you mention, told my mate 4 months ago to check for the flywheel triggers on his new to him mrk1 p150x points scoot, photos of the flywheel are on Beedspeeds site 😊.I have never seen or heard of anyone with a 200 engine with points, original or changed ( just saying 😉).
Hope the coffee worked this morning 😉😀
Ya Holy terror 😉😀
As you say " every days a school day😉
Jim ( mij)
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Post by outkastmike on Apr 8, 2017 14:25:20 GMT
The engine in my spanish sprint was originally from a TX200 from what i know it has the prefix 118m.   |
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Post by doulsy on Apr 9, 2017 13:46:59 GMT
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Post by mijapxman on Apr 9, 2017 16:05:15 GMT
Thats's only the second thing I've seen about them, the first being Henri's post, so that's a sorry to Henri and a cheers to doulsy😉
Still haven't seen one in the flesh, tho 😉
As Henri says " every days a school day.😉☺
Jim
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