Rear shock gone through frame!

[dannyspry]

Hi again all.

Back again for some more advice from the more wiser scooter crowd.

I decided to replace my rear shock today as it looked like it had never been changed on my 1985 PX.

I removed the tank to find that the shock has gone straight through the frame.

Will welding this part of the frame be ok? And does any body here know of a mobile welder within the Essex area?

Thanks!

[henri]

welding a top shock mount is do-able ,but as its a complicated 3 layer area of metal you'll be best asking local scooter shops for recommendations of a welder who knows scoots . H

[dannyspry]

Thanks H, I'll give the local shop a call.

[dannyspry]

Afternoon, so I have been told that it would be better to purchase a new frame rather than weld a brittle body back together. Any suggestions as to where the best place to buy a new frame?

Thanks

[hully1]

Hi Danny,

a brand new frame can be purchased from SIP but at quite a cost. I think it is better to look for a second hand scoot and buy that.

[dannyspry]

Thanks for the reply. Yep I contacted them, around €540 for the frame then €300 delivery

Ive decided to spend the money on repairing and respraying the original frame.

[hully1]

fair shout good luck with repair let me know how it went.

[djloone]

Go for it fella..save it n use it

LOON-E

[dannyspry]

Thanks guys...I managed to get the engine out tonight so well under way. I will let you all now how it goes.

[henri]

another 2nd hand frame can be found in this country , for £150 to £300 probably .just be sure its numbered an has a v5c to be safer .
for repairing your frame have a look at sugurlumps (ben's) welding tips thread in the stickies on the vespasmallframe forum ,an also theres a few welding frames stuff on the mig welding forum . will give ya a idea of whats needed . also use the search feature there an on here .H

[dannyspry]

Hi H.
The top mount looks a lot worse than when I initially had a look. I will send images off to the repair shop but worse case scenario is that the frame is shot and not repairable meaning purchasing a new frame.
Where have you seen a frame for that sort of money?
Thanks

[henri]

e bay , facebooger , an thru mates . google "vespaframe jig" an john will come up , he's in cumbria but will ship stuff .an from him its dead cert to be straight n honest . an rpm scooters in wiltshires worth a call aswell . tryin to remember any essex names i got but coming up blank an cant find my address book . but a ring around local shops an askin local scooter clubs an something might pop up .
i'll message ya my email address ,send us the pictures too please ,i'm "funny" that way for rusty-scooter-porn , will tell ya what i reckon too . H

[dannyspry]

Top man H.
Most of the bike stripped now but the shopping list seems to get longer!
Rusty porn on its way over...hope it satisfies you.
Cheers, Dan

[henri]

yummy , pretty standard top shock mount rusty hole . at least its not a smallframe or t5 mk1 ,there more complicated in that area .if you decide to save frame you'll probably find more when peeling back the underseal/dirt ya got around it ,not a worry as to be strong the repair should be full width of frame not a dunlop patch over hole . let me think some more an i might have some ideas . H

[dannyspry]

I contacted John last night, has a couple of later frames but he is going to check and get back to me.
Glad it's a standard rust patch. I sent the images over to the repair company so waiting to see what they say.
Thanks again, Dan

[dannyspry]

Evening H,
Heard of any frames going yet?
I can't get hold of one anywhere...hens teeth come to mind. Also nobody seems to be interested in repairing mine.

[henri]

ive one on my back wall, see my underseal thread , but thats a mates an he'll kill me if i sell it . get on facebook , p-range /vespa parts for sale/scooters for sale pages . they pop up regularly there , an also ebay .
i'm a bit busy at the moment ,but usually up for a challenge , if ya get totally stuck might be able to fit in a welding job in a month or 2 . H

[dannyspry]

I took the frame down to retrospective scooters down in Walthamstow earlier today. Dave said that the frame is too badly hurt to waste money on it. I found a company scooter center in Germany that sell the LML frame with all the other panels bits and bobs fully sprayed for €999 plus shipment of €99. I've decided to go with this...let me know your thoughts.

[djloone]

For that sorta mony you could get a whole doner bike
www.gumtree.com/p/vespa-motorbikes/vespa-px-125-2-stroke-with-fitted-malossi-166cc-kit/1161107046


LOON-E

[dannyspry]

Believe me I thought about getting a new bike but then I could be buying the same problem again. I need a sound and solid frame.

www.scooter-center.com/product/767FRPXGP/Frame+LML+drum+brake+LML+Star+including+mudguard+side+panels+tool+box+handlebar+horn+cover+graphite?meta=

[henri]

thats not to bad , if ya do bearings/seals/cruccy on ya lump ,about 70 quid .you efectively get a new scoot for 1200 + what the original one cost . new cable kits around 20 an ya good to go . just underseal n treat the new frame before ya build an it will last a lifetime ,or longer . H

[sime66]

Check your PMs mate