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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 26, 2015 21:50:43 GMT
I know ill probably regret asking but how does a regulator work and why do you need one, never had a scoot that had one, is it 12volt thing? do they get hot? if I wanted to can I move it and where to? the spare wheel holder bracket is in the recycling bin along with a chunk of back end of the engine bay wall. hunting for ammo box to weld on or an appropriate vintage box for tool box. final coat of undercoat went on today. few tiny bits to tidy but looks flat and straight, lost front tunnel seam and spent ages sorting rear ones after welding. looks tidy. Forks next, side panels an headset an sidestand an rear brake painted and sorted already. found rusty 21 mm ring spanner that's been at bottom of tool for 20yrs at least. going for it early.
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Post by henri on Aug 27, 2015 7:30:38 GMT
a reg box works as a zener diode ,as in when voltage rises over 12volts it opens a path to earth n dumps current straight to earth/back to stator ,bringing voltage back down ,12-16 volts is the nominal voltage on a vespa ,without a reg box its 45volts ,so yes if you like bulbs that last longer than a millisecond you do need one .an as a by-product they get warm , hot when knackered , so if you can find a place in flowing air for it it would be best.on smallies some put them inside the frame ,screwed to the bottom of ya toolbox will be fine as it will act as a heatsink .wherever ya put it ,it needs a good earth to work ,ok, H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 27, 2015 13:11:42 GMT
Ta again h you put me right I was thinking of resistors. What about 6v small frames how do they overcome the voltage surge? Some nice ww11 embossed ammo cans on eBay. Maybe a bit heavy but maybe can just bolt on with spacers.is quite an inconvient overhang on frame as curves in. Reg Should fit on bottom hopefully. Sick of angle grinding so hoping to dodge any more fabrication if I can. And would quite like to top coat in matt black with chrome tape racing pin stripes. Would you clear coat matt black my neighbour thinks I should? And then to start cabling and bolting everything back on to frame with stainless hardware. I haven't taken off a single bolt that isn't getting binned. Ttfn
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Post by henri on Aug 27, 2015 18:07:16 GMT
on 6volt vesps , basically they dont ,thats why the lights/lectrics are so sh*t , its a bit more complicated than that but basically piaggio tried for 40 years with different stators n wiring trying to get cheap/reliable an usable lectrics .3 words that dont go in same sentence unless its started with "you cant have" .my missus likes/runs matt black ,my nxt 1's goin satin black, matts posh sister ,
look for cans stencilled 7.62 , post ww2 so cheaper an more plentiful ,an thinner gauge/lighter .
an sorry but "sick of grinding" ,neighbours might be, but a day without sparks n funny smells is like 1 without pointing at a numpty n laughing , WASTED , youve been warned no more heresy or i'll sulk , an i do a "mean" sulk ive been told ,H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 27, 2015 20:07:56 GMT
Yeah oh for a plasma cutter and if I win the lottery a soda blaster to. After spending the morning organising me old mams garage, going to dump, pruning her tree, badly apparrently. I managed to get on About twoish and dropped hub and rim and spent the rest of day listning to. Rancid and chipping of gloopy black gloss from forks. Managed to find bolts again. Look OK so far. Forks pastel green originally yuk. 1 Hours cleaning and sandi and im good for the breakdown. Rim missing a stud. Bolt chucked through. I thought it was domed hub nuts and nuts for rims but were four dome nuts on rim and six nyloc for rest. All need binning. Going nylocs for all I guess and new stud. No split spring washers at all just flats. Might shout out on Facebook and see if anyone in "the shiny scooter club" or local will soda blast hub and rims cause I so wanna dodge the sandin.
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Post by henri on Aug 28, 2015 8:54:23 GMT
i wire wheel in a drill for hubs n rims , an if youve a compressor a blasting guns bout £30 from machine mart ,soda crystals can be got from chinese supermarkets cheap , an a cut up oil drum for a cabinet .if i had the space i'd have one , an if i had the money i'd have a plasma cutter in a heartbeat . H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 28, 2015 11:45:51 GMT
might swing by machine mart later for a quick look. could borrow compressor off mate.
looking for good page on fork strip and service please post links below if you've seen any good ones
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Post by henri on Aug 28, 2015 12:09:26 GMT
on bretta forks is this , 1st off ya need a spring compressor tool ,dont try without 1 ,you'll trash forks an injure yaself , were in the world are ya , as somebod close might have 1 , H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 28, 2015 20:16:21 GMT
had to reshout out on facebook and a nice guy called Steve Tower in Swindon spent an hour of his Friday night helping me with my forks. the good news is theyre early lammi forks with damper brackets welded on, they have solid rods not removalable balls. the fork links have welded on links for dampers, for Spanish servetta shocks which you cant buy any where. Steve cracked the fork link bolts and drifted out the bolt, but we could not get spring compressed enough for bottom stop to miss ball and slip out, even after removing upper stop. he said might be because fork links are newer, and meant to have removalable balls, just cant compress spring enough. said to try using a ring spanner backwards first or altering tool so can fit down further down cut outs in forks, so things to try tomorrow. he said done hundreds and never had this problem before lol. any ideas my scooter yodas
The shock bushes are perished and the cover damaged, and rusty with no hope of getting parts. So may have to weld new mounts to fork links. If servetta shocks and fork links are rare as rocking horse poo maybe i can flog em and buy some different fork links that will fit chromed shocks i ordered of ebay to cheer myself up. But if they got the springs in there must be away of getting them out. Learn from my mistakes and dont buy nothin of the tad valley lot.
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Post by henri on Aug 29, 2015 9:04:59 GMT
never heard of that 1 before ,but as you say somebod got em in ,what 1 man can do another should be able to undo ,H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 29, 2015 13:52:37 GMT
Modded tool with round file so goes right down cutout in forks, with grease nipple and bolt on rubber stop removed they came out eventually. May have to send links off to have servetta studs changed for innocetti and new bushes. Gonna shout out on lammi forum for dampers or bushes or Advice. Got a bloke called chuggers reckomended. Who do u rate h. Breakdown complete. Hurray . steering stops next and priming. Could have another look at old shocks but doesn't rock my world.
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Post by henri on Aug 29, 2015 14:28:40 GMT
who do i rate , well me an thats bout it ,but i'm a big-headed git , to be honest its so long since i owned a bretta the nightmares/panic attacks have stopped an i'm no longer bankrupt ,bout time to get another 1 i guess, so havent kept up with who's who recently .but if your swindon way Gloucestershire aint that far .1 pair i would rate is disco dez n nathan , he might even have ya dampers .an buzzsolomoto has a bit of a spanish fetish ,they might be worth a call . H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 29, 2015 16:58:14 GMT
damper stud 10mm, what size is innocetti stud. buzzsolomoto is on ebay, whos disco des and Nathan? is it you who lives in glos or disco des? spending nice day cleaning parts with drill and wirebrush. drill rubbish and wish I had mine here, but at mums, needs rest after 5mins and is overheatin. still shiny clean parts is cool
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Post by henri on Aug 29, 2015 20:34:26 GMT
dez is in Gloucestershire ,i'm in brighton , he's on fleabay too , think ive his number somewhere ,will have a look , otherwise its tinterweb n spain , recambios-moto-clasico is a place ive used before , ok, h
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 29, 2015 21:29:39 GMT
or cut\undo studs and drill an tap(or weld) new 6mm studs an spot weld washers on top brackets to reduce to 6mm. can get 6mm indian studs 99p plus postage, have a rummage maybe a couple in garage, ill try local motor spares shop first. like every ones selling kits and stainless studs 5.99 beedspeed, I just need 1 rim stud, 2 link studs, oh and new fork bushes and bolt on bumpers with new bolts(annoying cutouts on forks or what) complete resto kit with bushes an springs bumpers hardware 28 quid an still looking. cheering up a bit and making all parts shiny in between surfing
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 29, 2015 22:04:49 GMT
progressive springs !2 quid buzzmoto |
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Post by henri on Aug 30, 2015 7:06:19 GMT
springs £2 ,too cheap to be lambretta or any good , H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 30, 2015 17:08:19 GMT
£12 quid I mean. £40 beedspeed and other fancy website firms, asked I'm if indian or british made springs, just say lambretta on ad. just gonna drill 6mm hole, and spot weld in damper studs as my tap set lost with shed full of stuff in divorce, cut down a couple of bolts to right size and push in and zap them in. Hub all shiny clean, bearings good, rims next.
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Post by henri on Aug 31, 2015 9:13:34 GMT
hang on mate ,1st off indian links are notorious for studs breaking off ,get innoccetti links or decent pattern ones , or you'll regret it .
an rather than drill n weld coz of the abuse they take i'd say invest in at least 1 tap&die in size ya need , drill -tap-make stud from high tensile bolt or buy 1 being sure its high tensile ,wind it in an then weld .bit belt n braces but thats what i do .the consequences of a damper breaking loose can be very nasty if not fatal ,why take the chance eh. H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 31, 2015 14:00:56 GMT
Ok got high tensile bolts, but guess your right about tappin it out and cutting thread on bolt, maybe new brackets for top too.
servetta front dampers £99 from buzzsolomoto. as much as id like to dodge the hassle of sorting out 6mm studs and brackets that's harsh, and found a tap and die set in dads old tool cupboard and got new set of brand new drills from carboot from a oap for £3.
hubs an rims looking good
Ttfn
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Post by hedgeling106 on Sept 1, 2015 19:57:35 GMT
After what u said about rubbish forign parts, and the guy from super shiny scooter club saying that the reason the fork links were hard to get out is cause theyre the wrong part and so wont work proper anyway. im now buying new links and spring kit and hardware. Harsh but im sure its best in the end. Ammo box arrived so i made spacers from end of dampers and bottom bracket out of old spare wheel holder , zapped it all together dreaming of winning scrapheap challenge. Looks good and workable, if a bit of a tight fit. Back to front end.
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Post by vespasco on Sept 3, 2015 14:54:28 GMT
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Post by bryno on Sept 4, 2015 16:13:18 GMT
Not read all this but re Serveta forks, the brackets will be for the later fat dampers, which are not easily available, but you can just cut them off and weld on the brackets for slimmer dampers, slim brackets and dampers easily available. No one wants fat dampers anyway as they are pretty ugly ;-)
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Post by hedgeling106 on Sept 4, 2015 18:58:21 GMT
Think li innocetti forks, links and hubs. Was thinking servetta links because of 10mm studs and we could not get fork links out past the bolt on top rubber bumper. Looked at pics of servetta links on ebay and casting much cruder than my links. So guessing the reason we couldnt get out link was an incorrect large not small rubber bumper, and they had welded on chunky 10mm studs and fat heavy servetta damper because theyre numpties from tad valley. How random is that for first lammi fork build. Bloke in beedspeed couldnt get head round it, like whod do it?
Hub good apart from needing new back plate grease seal, and 5 axle washers and 1 greaase nipple. Shoes and bearings good. Definately innoceti, rims too. Fork innocetti prob. Will look into it tomorrow and check. Welded on new fork top damper brackets today. Rims painted. Hub cleaned inside and out ready to paint. Welding on steering stops next. Links gone to beedspeed for new studs and bushes. Plenty to do to get all ready for front end rebuild when they return.
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Post by henri on Sept 5, 2015 7:47:20 GMT
probably done coz they'd heard servetta hubs are the best ,which they are , just people mean rear hubs , DOH , an its a common mistake to mix up the thick/thin bump stops .ive seen it done both ways on same fork, must of made handling "interesting" , H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Sept 5, 2015 12:23:49 GMT
There is a bit of me wishing I'd stuck with servetta dampers just to annoy the I've kept my lammi totally original boys Same as a part of me wants to leave it primer grey just to annoy the shiny scooter.lol
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Post by hedgeling106 on Sept 5, 2015 12:38:06 GMT
There is a bit of me wishing I'd stuck with servetta dampers just to annoy the I've kept my lammi totally original boys, but i guess having early li parts in a vespa ratracer will do that anyway. Same as a part of me wants to leave it primer grey just to annoy the shiny scooter.lol
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Post by henri on Sept 5, 2015 14:39:22 GMT
Aah ,a fellow member of "the awkward squad" eh , theres a few of us about , means your eligble to join my scooter club "awkward b*st**ds SC " , well not join as your more just born that way . which brings us to ya age an the years of unpaid subscriptions you owe me ,ahem i mean the club , H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Sept 5, 2015 20:55:53 GMT
For my next project im planning to rat chop a gs. Put in an twisted extended tv175 front end, with square 50 special headset and paint it fflourescent green. What is your ABSC planning for its next project
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Post by henri on Sept 6, 2015 10:18:02 GMT
once the vbb spine with ss90 floor n leggys ,zip twin leg forks with 42l2 bars ,vincent stop light an cosa200 engines out the shed , called the frankenscooter , ive a mean n devilish plan for a lammie ld frame ,an a full race tuned kwacker KZ 125 engine , full bodied street sleeper , with the gearing n 10" wheels should be good for 70mph , an get there in under 10 seconds . H
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