Just a bit of fun - improve the P Range

[sbwnik]

OK, the P series Vespa is a great little machine that has proved itself over the years.
It's not perfect though.
So let's improve it...

If you could make ONE change to the P range to improve it, what would it be?


One change at a time only please, copy and paste or quote the previous post please.


1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock

[henri]

2 rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly. H

[mickingle]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2 rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3 Speedo that works

[henri]

i nearly went with mickingles speedo , as mine , H

[fredperrybruce]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!

[henri]

sorry gaz , didnt mean to confuse your takeaway order ,get a 34 n 92 in for me please ,H

[bigd]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light

[sbwnik]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling

[vespaskin86]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option

[henri]

Sept 4, 2014 6:18:24 GMT @garry said:

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards

11 re-inforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard .     

[bsr65]

Sept 4, 2014 6:18:24 GMT @garry said:

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards

11. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil.

[vespasco]

Sept 4, 2014 7:55:25 GMT bsr65 said:

Sept 4, 2014 6:18:24 GMT @garry said:

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards

11. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil.

12) i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me

[sbwnik]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. Redesign that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time

[kru251]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. Redesign that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!

[henri]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. Redesign that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!
17, scrap it an start again from scratch,or better more secure locks/steering lock so it aint a toerag magnet .
Read more: vespa.proboards.com/thread/4317/bit-fun-improve-range#ixzz3CQMslNBV

[henri]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. design that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!
17. scrap it an start again from scratch,or better more secure locks/steering lock so it aint a toerag magnet
18. soft rubber bump stops to seat the stand,sounds like I'm tonking it with a sledge hammer every morning and the dog runs a mile
19. a side stand aswell as centre ,so gaz stops scaring his dog an alarming the horses .

[sbwnik]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. design that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!
17. scrap it an start again from scratch,or better more secure locks/steering lock so it aint a toerag magnet
18. soft rubber bump stops to seat the stand,sounds like I'm tonking it with a sledge hammer every morning and the dog runs a mile
19. a side stand aswell as centre ,so gaz stops scaring his dog an alarming the horses
20. take a note out of LML's book and fit a reedvalve

Read more: vespa.proboards.com/thread/4317/bit-fun-improve-range?page=1&scrollTo=30272#ixzz3CXtWhpxb

21. Sort out the bloody carb box cover, those two screws are a pain.

[vespasco]

Sept 6, 2014 14:25:21 GMT sbwnik said:

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. design that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!
17. scrap it an start again from scratch,or better more secure locks/steering lock so it aint a toerag magnet
18. soft rubber bump stops to seat the stand,sounds like I'm tonking it with a sledge hammer every morning and the dog runs a mile
19. a side stand aswell as centre ,so gaz stops scaring his dog an alarming the horses
20. take a note out of LML's book and fit a reedvalve

Read more: vespa.proboards.com/thread/4317/bit-fun-improve-range?page=1&scrollTo=30272#ixzz3CXtWhpxb

21. Sort out the bloody carb box cover, those two screws are a pain.

22. An easier way to remove the exhaust bolt without taking off the rear wheel

[sbwnik]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. design that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!
17. scrap it an start again from scratch,or better more secure locks/steering lock so it aint a toerag magnet
18. soft rubber bump stops to seat the stand,sounds like I'm tonking it with a sledge hammer every morning and the dog runs a mile
19. a side stand aswell as centre ,so gaz stops scaring his dog an alarming the horses
20. take a note out of LML's book and fit a reedvalve
21. Sort out the bloody carb box cover, those two screws are a pain.
22. An easier way to remove the exhaust bolt without taking off the rear wheel
23. Rust proof the frame as standard.

[rab]

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. design that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!
17. scrap it an start again from scratch,or better more secure locks/steering lock so it aint a toerag magnet
18. soft rubber bump stops to seat the stand,sounds like I'm tonking it with a sledge hammer every morning and the dog runs a mile
19. a side stand aswell as centre ,so gaz stops scaring his dog an alarming the horses
20. take a note out of LML's book and fit a reedvalve
21. Sort out the bloody carb box cover, those two screws are a pain.
22. An easier way to remove the exhaust bolt without taking off the rear wheel
23. Rust proof the frame as standard.
24. spare wiring built into the loom for spots and other toys

[sbwnik]

Nov 6, 2014 22:28:10 GMT @garry said:

1. Go from using 7mm studs to 8mm so that there is a better chance of car shops holding stock
2. Rear light unit , sorry always thought it square/ugly.
3. Speedo that works
4. design the mudguard so it can be removed without stripping the front end
5. All Vespas to come with a complete tool kit "because your gonna bloody need it"!!!
6. 3 tubeless rims as standard
7. A brighter head light
8. Dual rear shocks to improve handling
9. a 5 port p200 engine option
10. better drainage on the footboards
11. re-enforced stand an frame around stand bolts as standard
12. Better clutch oil seals, so you don't have a panic attack every time you drain the oil
13. i think her name is Ting Wang, she would defo be the best improvement on my P. Shes much better looking than me
14. design the rear light lower down so the original holes take a lambretta style rack,saves bolting chunky uglys all over it
15. design that bloody carb/oil pump/cable linkage so that the cable or hook don't pop out at just the wrong time
16. Lose some of the overall width of the side covers of the machine to make it a bit less lardy-ar$e; more Lambr3tta skinny!
17. scrap it an start again from scratch,or better more secure locks/steering lock so it aint a toerag magnet
18. soft rubber bump stops to seat the stand,sounds like I'm tonking it with a sledge hammer every morning and the dog runs a mile
19. a side stand aswell as centre ,so gaz stops scaring his dog an alarming the horses
20. take a note out of LML's book and fit a reedvalve
21. Sort out the bloody carb box cover, those two screws are a pain.
22. An easier way to remove the exhaust bolt without taking off the rear wheel
23. Rust proof the frame as standard.
24. spare wiring built into the loom for spots and other toys
25. build another T5 with most of the mods above

26. Horizontally split engine, instead of vertically, so that all the bloody bits wouldn't drop out when you're putting it back together.