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Post by doulsy on Jun 25, 2014 22:31:00 GMT
got an old vespa thats been lying in a garden for 20 year, started restoring it but sourcing parts is driving me mad, lots of stuff is missing, headset and everything in it for starters, engine needs rebuilt including new crankshaft and barrel, i want to keep everything original with genuine parts but finding it hard as different sites list p200e stuff but dont mention genuine or not.
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Post by bryno on Jun 26, 2014 7:54:48 GMT
PX parts are easy to find, most of what you will see online wont be OE parts, but you can probably still get 99% of things from Piaggio if you wish. If you source engine parts, trim etc from suppliers like SIP.com (my first choice) they list what is OE and what is not and usually have a few options for everything, there are lots of non OE suppliers turning out good parts though.
Headset etc, I'd source secondhand personally, things like that I'd always stick to genuine to be sure fit and finish is good.
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Post by henri on Jun 26, 2014 8:10:18 GMT
like bryno says major bits like headset/bars an suchlike it will only be secondhand thats OE ,an if you stick to piaggio genuine parts the prices are exorbitant ,an mostly made in china an can be doubtful quality i'm afraid, unless new/old stock .where in the country are you as people on here can prob tell you of a "local shop (for locals)" that stocks good quality parts ,as he said SIP are pretty good but do cost a tad more , for simple items i use e bay for welsh shops an sometimes indian supplyers ,( for carb parts dellortto subs the work out to spaco in india anyway) ,or my local shop allstlyes in pompey as then i can get hands on before parting with cash ,
an unless expensive english chrome the rest dont shine for long ,h
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Post by doulsy on Jun 26, 2014 22:18:48 GMT
thanks for the advice, look at these speedo's, one from ebay and one from beedspeed ebay onebeedspeed onespend most of my time trying to suss if im getting quality or being ripped off |
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Post by henri on Jun 27, 2014 11:56:32 GMT
my old puter wouldnt pull up the e bay 1 ,prob forgot to wind up the clockwork this week,that or the hamster in his wheel back-up power pack has died of starvation again ,
with speedo's cheapys from e bay are often in kmh not mph ,as there not for english scoots ,an even tho they have veglia/piaggio on dial it can be misspelt or in blobby writing same with miles/klicks figures, an a lot have wrong colour dials for purists , as there for lml's, but later px 1's have crap printed ribbon wiring which is crap an breaks so people suss out how to wire up lml 1's as they use proper wires,if wrong colour,an dont break so much.
the beedspeed 1 is right colour dial i think for a p200,right connection screw not clip an instead of bad chrome has a stainless rim, have heard people slagging beedspeed cheap parts coz there made in switzerland ,dont know if its true or not ,but if it is the swiss are besy clockmakers in world so should handle a simple speedo an its next door to italy , genuine piaggio stuff is made were its cheapest ,china mostly ,at the price on the beedspeed one an look of quality of the dial i'd buy that 1 ,an piaggio can stuff there forced prisoner/sweatshop/overpriced work where only a very fast driven scoot would fit, but thats my personal opinion,
an if like me ya spend hours trying not to get robbed by parts supplyiers , it will still happen,its a fact of scooterin life,better to get it done by a local or english firm so ya can go an have a "frank exchange of views" , except for the piaggio main office an aj sutton ,as they overcharge an claim to have stock take ya money an then order it from italy where a 50p part still hasnt turned up 4 weeks later ,an as they know i cant get it anywhere else just ignore e mails or lie to me , sorry rant over,but its a brake part i cant re-use old 1 an ,sorry nearly went again,
stuff ive had from beedspeed has always been ok an as advertised/written on the box ,there not the only ones like that ,most have own website an dont do e bay like beed,put off by bad rep of flea-bay parts,check out the ads in scootering mag ,its a guide to who's ok ,but not 100%reliable,ok, have fun, H
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Post by doulsy on Jun 27, 2014 19:50:09 GMT
my old puter wouldnt pull up the e bay 1 ,prob forgot to wind up the clockwork this week,that or the hamster in his wheel back-up power pack has died of starvation again , with speedo's cheapys from e bay are often in kmh not mph ,as there not for english scoots ,an even tho they have veglia/piaggio on dial it can be misspelt or in blobby writing same with miles/klicks figures, an a lot have wrong colour dials for purists , as there for lml's, but later px 1's have crap printed ribbon wiring which is crap an breaks so people suss out how to wire up lml 1's as they use proper wires,if wrong colour,an dont break so much. the beedspeed 1 is right colour dial i think for a p200,right connection screw not clip an instead of bad chrome has a stainless rim, have heard people slagging beedspeed cheap parts coz there made in switzerland ,dont know if its true or not ,but if it is the swiss are besy clockmakers in world so should handle a simple speedo an its next door to italy , genuine piaggio stuff is made were its cheapest ,china mostly ,at the price on the beedspeed one an look of quality of the dial i'd buy that 1 ,an piaggio can stuff there forced prisoner/sweatshop/overpriced work where only a very fast driven scoot would fit, but thats my personal opinion, an if like me ya spend hours trying not to get robbed by parts supplyiers , it will still happen,its a fact of scooterin life,better to get it done by a local or english firm so ya can go an have a "frank exchange of views" , except for the piaggio main office an aj sutton ,as they overcharge an claim to have stock take ya money an then order it from italy where a 50p part still hasnt turned up 4 weeks later ,an as they know i cant get it anywhere else just ignore e mails or lie to me , sorry rant over,but its a brake part i cant re-use old 1 an ,sorry nearly went again, stuff ive had from beedspeed has always been ok an as advertised/written on the box ,there not the only ones like that ,most have own website an dont do e bay like beed,put off by bad rep of flea-bay parts,check out the ads in scootering mag ,its a guide to who's ok ,but not 100%reliable,ok, have fun, H thanks for the advice, the ebay speedo looks identical with veglia on it thats why i get so confused, need some advice for further down the line, need a new crankshaft and barrel, they have 3 different make's on beedspeed and even more on ebay, i dont want to go malossi or polini, just want quality as close to original as possible, so it would be great if you guys could help, im based in glasgow btw |
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Post by sbwnik on Jun 29, 2014 19:20:43 GMT
I suspect they're both the same speedo. Notice the incorrectly formed Piaggio logo on both.
You've not been able to buy a genuine Piaggio one for at least 15 years, I've tried twice in that period and failed.
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Post by doulsy on Jul 2, 2014 19:40:40 GMT
Mazzucchelli ! is this a decent make for crankshafts ect? seen some kind words about the quality of Mazzucchelli parts but i aint got a clue, i recon i would have my project half done by now if i wasn't constantly reviewing pesky parts.
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Post by bryno on Jul 2, 2014 19:52:56 GMT
yes, they are pretty popular aftermarket cranks..
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Post by doulsy on Jul 2, 2014 20:28:14 GMT
yes, they are pretty popular aftermarket cranks.. saw one on ebay that was half the price of the one i was gonna buy from beedspeed ebay crankshaftbeedspeedsaw one on sip that was close to £200 as well. |
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