Shock absorbers for disc PX

[partanen]

I bought Carbone absorbers with ride height adjustments. I think they are a bit too stiff for me, even on lowest setting. And now I noticed that one for the front is 1cm longer than original is.

I'm about to order original absorbers as I some how trust Piaggio engineers when it comes riding comfort. At least my Gts is nice to ride, but can we even compare PX and Gts from that point of view?

Could you suggest any reasonably priced comfy shocks? Or should I order a new saddle or seat instead?

I have not ride a lot with working original shocks so I don't really know how original absorbers works.

Thanks in advance.

[henri]

a big springy seat was piaggio's/innoceti's answer to crap suspension in the 40's- 50's,tho when my mate has his single sprung seat on his px he goes over local speed bumps (scale models of famous mountain's)at about 35-40 ,an at about 30 on bench seat.loads faster than i do it on my super/bikes can.he always puts the bench back on for winter as the airflow under the single seat freezes his piles (old fart).i'd agree with getting a standard shocker back on it ,at least then you can compare the ride if you get a adjustable 1 later.
setting them up is a bit of a trick on adjustable 1 as all scoots/riders have different needs/preferences.loads easyier to stick to standard an ride the scoot to suit the set up rather than setting up 1 to suit how ya want to ride ,if ya see what i mean.better handling/less diving comes at the cost of comfort/softer ride. H

[partanen]

Thank henri.

I went back to garage to see what I got. Original front shock seems to be quite alright for now. Rear shock is jammed. Spring cannot drag out the absorber.

Then I noticed that Piaggio sells all the shock absorber parts separately for this model. I could use my existing spring, but original absorber is hard to find. Brand called "RMS" offers absorber, but how can I know if it works together with original spring.

Edit: I do know how to use ride height adjustment. This one shows once again that it's not for adjusting spring stiffness.

[henri]

an you will need a spring compressor to do the job easy ,most car shops sell em ,but there a bit big to fit between springs coils .a bit of thought an you can do it with threaded bar an bars with holes through .ive used a "bendix" compressor for old commercials before,classic car 1's are too small ,your local scoot/bike mechanic might have a spring compressor the right size .
if rms offer a replacement damper you'd think it would work with a piaggio spring ,but who/where are they ,an it would have to be cheap to make up for the hassle as whole new rear shocks arent that expensive/rare.
ive never sussed the adjustment on scoots ,when ive fitted variable rate dampers have done the "sag"measurements an adjusted pre-loads to suit my weight but honestly dont think i'm good enuff rider/pushing the suspension enough to tell much difference .always seem to end up back at the factory settings it arrived with in the end ,they suit my use of the scoot an give the easiest ride.
with some of my bikes ive noticed a big difference between ok factory settings an fettled to my preferences ,but i push my bikes a lot harder than i'm willing to on my scoots.i'm a better bike rider than scoot pilot so take it easy on the scoots. H

[sbwnik]

I think you'll struggle to find sorting compressors for a p range , they're usually took bulky.
I normally use a load of zip ties

[pxguru]

I have a pair of Carbone adjustables on my 221. Probably a similar type. I thought mine were really very hard at first but after a few hundred miles they softened up nicely

[partanen]

Spring often tend to soften. My back is aching already. I'm not sure if I can wait.

I'm pondering if I should try original spring with Carbone shock. Then again Carbone could be too hard for original spring, which is no good.

[henri]

the original spring should be "bedded in" an softer on your back,the carbone damper shouldnt be "to hard" if original spring fits it .the damper just slows the springs action an stops it oscillating up an down like a yo-yo. if pxguru's right an yours will bed-in softer maybe a single-seat for summer is the answer ,in winter they freeze ya ass off but do save ya back from jarring bumps/potholes . H

[partanen]

Now I have suspension. Original spring with Carbone absorber feels good.

Although original absorber looks alright it's very stiff. And it only absorbs one direction, outwards. Like very old absorbers do. Carbone absorber is softer and it absorbs both direction. And I also have ride height adjustment on the rear.

I also put original shock to front. Now my front wheels is off the ground when scooter is on center stand. Easier to maintain this way I think.

[partanen]

Zip ties did the job. At least with original spring. Carbone spring is quite a lot stiffer.



Carbone shock and original spring: