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Post by shaunpx on Dec 3, 2012 10:18:41 GMT
Ive not had a P2 on the road for over 20 years now and was wondering what tyres people recommend with respect to grip in wet and dry conditions, how many miles they last on average when ridden fast regularly, cost etc?
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Post by Robjack on Dec 3, 2012 17:23:51 GMT
I've never had a problem with Michelin S83's, a good all-rounder IMO. I pay about £26 each and they last about 4K miles on the rear, forever on the front.
Heard very good things about the Schwalbe Weatherman tyres, might give them a go someday if they sort out the reported problems with them. (See Scootering mag)
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Post by bryno on Dec 3, 2012 19:52:15 GMT
Well, you're going to get a few views on this..
For what it's worth I run S83 on all my scoots, cost about £22 odd, rears only last around 2k on my lammie, about 4k on my P2.
They are reasonable all rounders with a classic tread pattern, but I'm sure there are better options for wet weather/higher speed etc, they dont give me great confidence on wet roundabouts first thing in the morning!
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Post by sbwnik on Dec 3, 2012 21:34:01 GMT
Whatever you buy, stick them on tubeless rims. Worth every penny. (FTR I run SIP Performers, crap in the wet and when cold, but get them up to heat......  ) |
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Post by shaunpx on Dec 4, 2012 10:29:19 GMT
Cheers guys ive got a S83 that came with the scoot so might give them a whirl, some of the guys ive spoken with swear by Michelin S1's ive also heard good reports about the new (wait for it) Sava tyres that AF and MB are selling but thats just from people who are selling them, has anybody tried them or are their any other opinions on the S1's? dont think i'll bother with the Weathermans for the time being tho while theres concerns about delamination but will look into others if there are any other suggestions ;D
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Post by sbwnik on Dec 4, 2012 21:38:03 GMT
The new Savas have been great for a good few years now. No problems there. I used to run S1s til they changed factory and compound. I'll not touch them now, my Performers are a fraction of the price and have similar characteristics.
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Post by shaunpx on Dec 6, 2012 13:48:19 GMT
Has anyone tried Michelin SM100's or Continental K62's?
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Post by kru251 on Dec 6, 2012 22:56:06 GMT
My Michelin S1's have been fine & grippy but I do have a pair of brand new white wall Continental K62's to try, but as I use SIP tubeless rims it ain't so easy to swap 'em around as it is with split rims!!!
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Post by joey on Dec 9, 2012 0:30:02 GMT
Seeing as we now live in the year of Our Lord 2012 why oh why would anyone entrust their life in a 1950's tread pattern?? The only thing stopping your arse being rubbed away on the road is a couple of square inches of rubber........ get the best you can afford. Personally I'm still on a set of Conti Navigators, best tyre I've ever used in both wet and dry, but they've been discontinued with the Scooty (  ) taking it's place so I might try a pair soon enough.... |
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Post by sbwnik on Dec 9, 2012 12:55:26 GMT
Joey - tread pattern is OK, it's the rubber that's the issue. Compounds are a lot better than they were back when.
That said, I'll stick to road race patterns that don't disperse much water...
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Post by kru251 on Dec 26, 2012 21:32:49 GMT
One thing I have noticed having just got my Continental K62's down out of the loft is that they are only rated at 62mph max as are a few other tyres I have in the loft too (good storage as fairly cool & dark).
I'm sure they're fine on 125's Vespa and Lammies but maybe not so good for tuned scoots running a fair bit over this at sustained high speed.
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Post by sbwnik on Dec 27, 2012 15:35:45 GMT
Really? Bloody hell... What's the weight rating for that?
Although there is usually some leeway, I'd not want to push my luck!
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Post by kru251 on Dec 27, 2012 16:37:31 GMT
Well the sidewalls on these Continental K62's says
" Max load 243kg (536lbs) at 325kpa (47psi) cold" That's 38.2 stone in old money.
"Max speed 100km/h (62mph)"
That is on a 3.50 -10- 59J tyre
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Post by sbwnik on Dec 27, 2012 23:37:40 GMT
There's a formula that allows the speed limit to be changed if the weight is less (or more) than advised - ie the lower the weight, the faster the speed. But that includes scooter and rider.... A P2 is (From memory) about 110kg dry, so you're down to 225kg. That's two fat scooterists and a tank full of fuel, and you're at the limit.
Though at that weight you'd struggle to hit 62mph!
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Post by pxguru on Dec 28, 2012 4:29:00 GMT
My scooter has two wheels. And very often they are both on the ground at the same time! ;D
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Post by kru251 on Dec 28, 2012 11:18:44 GMT
There's a formula that allows the speed limit to be changed if the weight is less (or more) than advised - ie the lower the weight, the faster the speed. But that includes scooter and rider.... A P2 is (From memory) about 110kg dry, so you're down to 225kg. That's two fat scooterists and a tank full of fuel, and you're at the limit. Though at that weight you'd struggle to hit 62mph! I reckon you're right Nik (as I start into a white chocolate Christmas Toblerone at 11am lol) |
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