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Post by georgew on Nov 22, 2011 22:25:49 GMT
Hey,
I will relocate from Munich/Germany to London in January, and I would love to take my good old lady with me (Vespa 50, built in 1979). It is originally from Italy, and has German documents.
Does anybody know if/where I need to register the vehicle and if I need special documents and license plate?
The Vespa is in original condition: no wing mirror, no direction indicator, speedometer Km/H,... Are there any requirements?
Thanks,
Georg
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Post by bryno on Nov 25, 2011 19:36:19 GMT
Welcome mate, I think you'll find UK regs a bit more relaxed than back in Germany..
No modifications to the scooter needed, you just need to get an MOT test done, and get insured and take your German docs to the local DVLA office along with a V55C form (pick up at the DVLA office) your MOT and Insurance certificates. Few days later you will have a UK registration.
You can leave it on German plates for a short while when you come over, so long as you can get it insured for use in UK on the German plate.
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Post by sbwnik on Nov 27, 2011 16:29:18 GMT
Bryn, it'll need a UK spec headlight and mph speedo won't it? Commercial imports do.
Also, I don't think the Euro spec V50 has a brake light, does it?
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Post by bryno on Nov 28, 2011 9:09:39 GMT
I don't know about this speedo thing Nik.. 4 of my scoots have KMH only speedo's and i've never had an issue with an MOT test and when it comes to registering a scoot for the first time they don't look at it anyway (unless you're real unlucky)..
Re the headlight, they are all the same AFAIK.
Yes, it will certainly need a brake light if it does not already..
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Post by georgew on Nov 29, 2011 13:39:48 GMT
Thank you Bryn, this is very helpful!
I do not have a break light, it is not required in GER. If this is the usual retrofitting in the UK, do you have any hints or sources how I can do this?
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Post by sbwnik on Dec 1, 2011 12:14:10 GMT
Bryn, headlights are different, they shine to the opposite side of the road.
Fitting a brake light is straight forward. Add a brake switch to the brake pedal, run a wire from the main loom to one side of the switch, and then from the switch back to the rear light (Obviously this will need to be some sort of twin filament or twin bulb set up - UK spec ones are easy to find) and that's the lot done.
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Post by bryno on Dec 1, 2011 12:34:00 GMT
Hey up Nik..
Do they?, 4 of my scoots are imports and all have their original headlights, i've never noticed they point any way other than straight ahead..
Maybe they do and I've just not noticed, can't recall my MOT chap ever checking anything other than asking me if the lights are on!
I presume the brake light switch is inside the pedal on a UK smallframe Vespa so easiest fix is I guess to buy a UK spec brake pedal as well as the rear light unit..
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Post by coco on Dec 1, 2011 16:40:44 GMT
Bryn, headlights are different, they shine to the opposite side of the road. Fitting a brake light is straight forward. Add a brake switch to the brake pedal, run a wire from the main loom to one side of the switch, and then from the switch back to the rear light (Obviously this will need to be some sort of twin filament or twin bulb set up - UK spec ones are easy to find) and that's the lot done. need to wire up from the front lever as well? and to the main lighting circuit for a tail light? |
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Post by bryno on Dec 1, 2011 17:41:41 GMT
You dont need a brake light on the front lever, only back, but can be fitted with an in line switch on the cable if wish to.
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Post by coco on Dec 1, 2011 19:29:30 GMT
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Post by jackthekipper on Dec 2, 2011 4:24:35 GMT
if a brake light is fitted, it must meet the requirements of this inspection, but need not be fitted to a machine which: a. cannot exceed 25mph, or b. was first used before 1 January 1936, or c. was first used before 1 April 1986 and which has an engine capacity of less than 50cc. Machines first used before 1 April 1986 must have a stop lamp that operates from at least one brake control. Machines first used on or after 1 April 1986 must have a stop lamp that operates from both brake controls.
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Post by georgew on Dec 2, 2011 10:19:00 GMT
Many thanks to all of you - great support!
I look very much forward to immigrating to UK - with my Vespa :-)
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Post by sbwnik on Dec 3, 2011 4:18:35 GMT
Clear on the brake light then, but I'd keep the relevant legislation handy as not all MOT stations will know that. Bryn, you've got a very understanding MOT man, or you're riding round with a beam corrector (a bit of black tape!) on? ukmot.com/1-6.aspAbout a third of the way down: Right hand dip headlamps can be temporarily altered for use in the UK by fitting masks or converter kits which remove the beam 'kick-up' to the right A headlamp altered in this way is not a reason for rejection, if a. the headlamp aim is not rejected for the reasons listed under diagram 1 (except that the top of the beam image will be a straight line) b. the light output is not unduly reduced- not usually a problem with commercially produced kits c. the mask or converter is securely attached The only exception (as far as I can see) is on |
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Post by bryno on Dec 4, 2011 17:11:53 GMT
Well, usually the MOT guy is making tea and just shouts over to ask if the lights are on!
So what part of the light deflects the beam one way or another, the glass? or is it just the way it is made to point slightly left?
Re brake light, even if it doesnt need one, I'd certainly not ride a scooter without one, not worth risking your life, it's hard enough been seen with decent 12v lights.
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