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Post by Devo McDuff on Jul 30, 2008 12:44:41 GMT
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Post by skrappey on Jul 30, 2008 13:36:21 GMT
Beyond the price, not really.
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Post by Devo McDuff on Jul 30, 2008 16:58:20 GMT
Phew. Was cheaper than that, got it at a motorcycle shop as an emergency. Can be quite hard to find decent 2-stroke on the road!
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Post by oldfart on Aug 2, 2008 19:57:27 GMT
I inadvertently bought fully synthetic oil for my PX125 and have been using it for some time. Have I bought the wrong stuff?
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Post by elviswasamod on Aug 2, 2008 20:18:47 GMT
semi synthetic is good enough for any standard scoot fully synth if your kitted up i only use semi on my p2 and i rag it everyday because its standard so save yourself a few quid buy semi [[ if standard ]]
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Post by oldfart on Aug 2, 2008 20:39:41 GMT
Cheer elvis, as an ageing mod my eyesight is going, and I never even realised I'd bought fully synthetic oil ( silly old fart)  I was just worried I had done some sort of damage. |
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Post by elviswasamod on Aug 2, 2008 20:55:47 GMT
no you wont do any damage at all basically its too good for what you need remember years ago when you went to the garage you got this pump thing you put in your tank what cheap crap was in that and did you ever have any problems ;; no i reckon so just stick to semi as long as there is oil in your fine ride safe ferdy
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Post by mark on Aug 2, 2008 21:19:23 GMT
My PX is 28 years old and in the five years that Ive had it I use tesco or carplan two stroke oil with no problems it is a standard set up though . I also have an LML that is catalysed and runs lean to meet Euro 3 so decent synthetic in that  |
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Post by elviswasamod on Aug 2, 2008 21:28:16 GMT
mark my p2 is 27 yrs old i rest my case nice one and we have never had a problem 3 cheers for semi synth lol cheers
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Post by dto79px on Aug 3, 2008 13:18:52 GMT
semi oil for older px's sure , but newer px's should be run on fully as stated in the owners handbook
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Post by Devo McDuff on Aug 3, 2008 22:50:59 GMT
I've used semi synthetic on a new PX for 2 years without issue. Should I expect problems at some point then?
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Post by elviswasamod on Aug 3, 2008 22:54:41 GMT
no ;D
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Post by reverandfunk on Aug 4, 2008 13:51:39 GMT
My PX is 2 years old and Ive always used Rock Semi Synthetic (as rec by my local scoot shop) and never had a problem
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Post by oldfart on Aug 4, 2008 15:46:10 GMT
no you wont do any damage at all basically its too good for what you need remember years ago when you went to the garage you got this pump thing you put in your tank what cheap crap was in that and did you ever have any problems ;; no i reckon so just stick to semi as long as there is oil in your fine ride safe ferdy Cue the Hovis music...eeeeh ah remember when ah was a lad........AA men used to salute you, Dickie Attambourgh were a gangster in Brighton Rock and you could smoke or spit on a bus wi'out anyone looking twice...eeeh they were grand days... |
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Post by meatball on Sept 21, 2008 10:04:20 GMT
semi oil for older px's sure , but newer px's should be run on fully as stated in the owners handbook Is this correct, as i have heard that you shouldn't run in a new motor on fully synthetic, and if so does it matter if you mix fully synthetic with semi synthetic? I am only asking as i have recently bought a 2002 p2 with only 620km on it, so its not fully run in yet, and cannot get hold of the previous owner to find out what he had used in it. Your advise is gratefully appreciated. |
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Post by dto79px on Sept 21, 2008 17:10:25 GMT
All piaggio's scooters that i'v owned for the last 10 years have been run on fully sythectic oil from new .
This is 2-stokes and the new 4-stroke scooter engines !!!
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Post by Robjack on Sept 21, 2008 18:46:09 GMT
semi oil for older px's sure , but newer px's should be run on fully as stated in the owners handbook Is this correct, as i have heard that you shouldn't run in a new motor on fully synthetic, and if so does it matter if you mix fully synthetic with semi synthetic? I am only asking as i have recently bought a 2002 p2 with only 620km on it, so its not fully run in yet, and cannot get hold of the previous owner to find out what he had used in it. Your advise is gratefully appreciated. When I bought my P2 it was very similar to yours, it had 340 miles on the clock. I've got no idea what the previous owner used, apart from not much, but I just started to use fully synthetic (Selenia) straight away as was recommended by the dealer, no problems so far. |
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Post by meatball on Sept 21, 2008 19:25:30 GMT
Well sounds good enough to me, fully synthetic it's going to be ;D.
Thanks for the input guys.
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Post by Ironduke on Sept 22, 2008 1:24:49 GMT
I remember this argument on another forum once, the upshot was that fully synthetic was too good for running in, it actually extended the running in period. It seems logical as you are trying to get the metal surfaces to bed in together and as fully synth has superior lubricating qualities it will try prevent that...
All the best
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Post by meatball on Sept 22, 2008 5:25:07 GMT
I remember this argument on another forum once, the upshot was that fully synthetic was too good for running in, it actually extended the running in period. It seems logical as you are trying to get the metal surfaces to bed in together and as fully synth has superior lubricating qualities it will try prevent that... All the best Thats put the cat amongst the pigeons again.......This is the arguement i've been hearing everywhere, did vespa recommend fully synthetic from new because it burns cleaner therefore it may get through the EU emmisions laws, or was it purely to preserve the life of the motor  From what i can gather the motors haven't changed that much in the last 25 years or so have they? Just look at the oil we used to put in them back then, surely anything is better than that. |
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I was just worried I had done some sort of damage.
From what i can gather the motors haven't changed that much in the last 25 years or so have they? Just look at the oil we used to put in them back then, surely anything is better than that.