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Post by flamingkitties on Aug 17, 2010 21:54:28 GMT
What is considered to be an armoured chain?
I've got an Oxford Hardcore lock and chain but no idea if it's considered to be 'armoured', it has a material cover on it, hardly armadillo.
Also, hello I'm new, I got my first Vespa today (2010 LX 125), after years on a crappy MotoRoma. When I've gone more than 10 miles I'll be back to sing its praises I'm sure.
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Post by Robjack on Aug 17, 2010 22:20:34 GMT
Hi and welcome.
This is a complete guess, but I would imagine an armoured chain is one made from a high tensile steel and is a bit tougher than a low carbon steel one.
How you would find out if yours is one? Google is your friend.
Enjoy your scoot.
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Post by Ilan on Aug 18, 2010 13:41:55 GMT
welcome, well if someone would want to steal it, nothing will stop him there are hydraulic small cutters that can cut almost anything a linked chain is a peace of cake lucky us we got a vespa  which I think is less appealing to the "professional" thief (the one that uses professional metal cutter) here's a demonstration, 17 seconds is an average for cutting a bike chain... btm line I think you can be calm with a bike/scooter chain on a vespa how to tell if its hardened? ask the seller.... but if you want to find out yourself, you can try to use a metal sew on it for a few seconds see how it reacts - hardened steel will be slippery and the sew will just slip on it, and just scratch it lightly and another thing, best is to tie the scoot to a post or tree etc |
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Post by flamingkitties on Aug 18, 2010 19:24:26 GMT
Howdy - the bike is fine at home just chained to nothing, at work it's chained to a bike rack. I only ask about the proper definition because the insurance company are very precise in their phrasing of what needs to be used to protect it, disc lock, d-lock or armoured chain. If they decided the Oxford Hardcore I was using wasn't one of them, they could get away with not paying out should some cretin take my lovely new scoot away. I realise it won't stop someone, most of the time, it's just I don't want to be done out of it if the insurers thought it wasn't up to their standard. I may get a disc lock too, just to double my "protection" against the insurers, rather than the thieves. Thanks for your advice! welcome, well if someone would want to steal it, nothing will stop him there are hydraulic small cutters that can cut almost anything a linked chain is a peace of cake lucky us we got a vespa which I think is less appealing to the "professional" thief (the one that uses professional metal cutter) here's a demonstration, 17 seconds is an average for cutting a bike chain... btm line I think you can be calm with a bike/scooter chain on a vespa how to tell if its hardened? ask the seller.... but if you want to find out yourself, you can try to use a metal sew on it for a few seconds see how it reacts - hardened steel will be slippery and the sew will just slip on it, and just scratch it lightly and another thing, best is to tie the scoot to a post or tree etc |
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Post by Ilan on Aug 18, 2010 20:30:08 GMT
armored or hardened ? its a bit general description...
the best thing to do is to ask the insurance for the exact type required
if they say a chain must be of a certain thickness of hardened steel
you just have to find out if thats what you got,
you can do this by emailing the company
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Post by flamingkitties on Aug 18, 2010 21:05:12 GMT
armored or hardened ? its a bit general description... the best thing to do is to ask the insurance for the exact type required if they say a chain must be of a certain thickness of hardened steel you just have to find out if thats what you got, you can do this by emailing the company I'll have to speak to them on the phone about something else tomorrow anyway, so I'll ask if they have a list of approved locks. Thanks. |
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which I think is less appealing to the "professional" thief (the one that uses professional metal cutter)