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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 23, 2015 13:37:00 GMT
The main grey connector block under horn casting is missing a few bits, bearing in mind its cutdown and has no indicators only cut off wires.
From top six pin connector missing. Lights?
Next 2nd two pin connector to ignition.
Next 3rd three pin connector only two wires. Which is bundled in with four pin connector in fourth place and goes to speedo. There is a spare lilac or purple wire with an individual connector coming down from headset in this bundle, not sure what its for, horn ?
Next is five pin connector missing.
Next 3 pin connector missing, but no wires or pins on loom side either?
Anyone help fill me in.
Ttfn
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Post by punkasf**k on Aug 23, 2015 15:29:40 GMT
ill take my horn cover off tomoz bud and take a pic if that's any help
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Post by punkasf**k on Aug 23, 2015 15:29:54 GMT
I f**king hate wiring lol
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Post by sime66 on Aug 23, 2015 15:38:07 GMT
Here's the blocks behind the horncover: 
Here's where the wires go:
 (You'll notice that on my wiring diagram the order of the wires to the blocks [27] are the same as on the scooter). Your odd lilac/purple goes to the speedo wiring – for high beam warning; don't know why it has its own connector. |
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 23, 2015 16:07:22 GMT
Awesome. odd wire . In pic of speedo wiring there are two grey terminal connecters and third single white one im wondering about. Im assuming wiring for horn is on lights cable assembly? Ps what type of speedo do i need are several on ebay grey faced and black.
TTFN
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Post by sime66 on Aug 23, 2015 17:30:14 GMT
The odd wire off the speedo terminal [26], which should be lilac not white, connects to the odd lilac wire on the light switch [6] – you can see it on my wiring diagram.
You should also be able to tell from the image above and the wiring diagram, which wires off the light switch go to horn (blue & yellow spades) , to headlight (Black, white, brown, lilac spades), and to terminal block. - there's only one other wire going directly from speedo to switch, which is the one I think you mean.
As fas as which speedo; that's going to depend on your headset and which terminal you have on the back of the speedo. The above info and colours are correct for mine, which is '83 (early EFL speedo – I think the modern grey speedo has same connection), which matches your first description of your horncover terminal block, if you have older or non-original it might be why your colours and wires might be different, in which case I think you'll have to look at Haynes or Scooterhelp for an older wiring diagram and go from there.
What was yours before it was cut-down? Model? Year?
From your first post it sounds the same as mine (EFL speedo), but if you have an odd white wire you might need to check; maybe photos showing which ones you're unclear on, if you are still unclear......
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 23, 2015 18:33:41 GMT
I defo have parts as in pics.
Still wooly on spare connector from speedo under horn cover.its hard to see in pic but are 3 connectors two grey one white. If there is a connector at bottom of light switch bundle could connect to it.
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Post by sime66 on Aug 23, 2015 19:02:50 GMT
That's it; the spare (white plastic) spade connection on the speedo bundle connects to the spare (white plastic) spade connector on the light switch bundle – it is the full beam warning light and should be lilac (as shown as single lilac connection between switch and speedo on wiring diagram). I've ringed them in green on this screenshot as well to clarify:  |
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 23, 2015 20:53:46 GMT
How do you tell what colour the wires are when covered in various shades of overspray. Bit of scratchy kitchen cloth will make it all good. Just missing the light switch bundle. Will look at engine end and spare wheel side tomorrow. Get it straight in head as frame should be finished and topcoated in next day and can start bolting everything back to frame.
Ttfn
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Post by henri on Aug 24, 2015 9:22:21 GMT
will not need wire colours at horncast end ,plugs only fit oneway ,for under side panel a cloth with thinners or meths will clean em up fine with no damage to insulation , engine sides just a 2 wire plug an 3 wires to cdi , with a extra single wire (green)from outside green connecter on cdi to single green from loom for killswitch/ignition off .plugs a purple n black for power to reg box an earth . H
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 25, 2015 12:44:49 GMT
On spare wheel side i have three single wires spade connectors. Red yellow white
Two light green wires with spade connectors and bright green link between two spade connectors. And black wire with brass earth clamp and additional black wire link to spade connector .
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 25, 2015 12:55:12 GMT
Engine side 3 wires black blue and longer green?all individual connectors.
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Post by henri on Aug 25, 2015 15:58:47 GMT
ok, engine side , blue loom wires what i described as purple above , an goes to stator blue wire ,black to black an green goes to cdi ,
on spare side ya reg box will have letters/signs or colours nxt to terminals ,black earth clamp goes behind 1 of reg box mounting screws an connecter to black/earth sign .red an white an 1 end of green double ended go on ya flasher relay ,nxt to same colour blobs on relay ,other end of green goes to reg box ,
after that i need to know battery or non-battery an how many pins on reg box , H
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Post by henri on Aug 25, 2015 16:08:33 GMT
just read ya spare wheel post ,so no indies or battery , right 3 pin reg box , black goes as above ,yellow to middle pin an what ya describing as white is i'm guessing the grey power feed to headset , on last pin available , H
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Post by sime66 on Aug 25, 2015 17:09:33 GMT
Engine Side:Black to stator black Blue to stator blue Green to outside conn on CDI Spare Wheel Side (differs from Henri's *note the white*): 
Black – spade to regulator, brass connection under regulator bolt.
Yellow to regulator – tell us the letters on reg
Light green (grey?) to regulator – tell us the letters on reg
White (flasher front) isolate don't use,
Red (flasher rear) isloate don't use,
Green link – spade – (a/c to flasher) isolate don't use BUT...
Other light green (grey?) continues back out – to Rear brake light, so leave bright green link between the wires, but isolate other spade.
Those two light green (grey?) wires are AC for heasdset and AC for brake light, the link/spade is just a connection for the flasher; it's that light green (grey?) wire, though, that connects into last conn on regulator, not the white.
See attached mark-up, which shows where wires would go and which ones you don't need.
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 25, 2015 17:17:47 GMT
U lot are awesome i am now one with the loom my jedi masters. Wish tinternet been around in 80s instead of zx81 and commodor junk i ad
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Post by hedgeling106 on Aug 25, 2015 17:29:19 GMT
No regulator it going on parts list. Anyone which i need hopefully cheap. New or second hand?
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