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Post by baldmeister on May 29, 2012 18:48:48 GMT
hi, thinking of buying either a sterling or a revolver exhaust for my 125px, anybody got any views on either ?? cheers dave
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Post by Lucia on Jun 22, 2012 17:53:03 GMT
*bump*
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Post by sbwnik on Jun 22, 2012 19:01:52 GMT
125 will be too underpowered for either in standard form. Kit it and port it before you start thinking about exhausts. If you do want to just change the exhaust, you'll get the best results out of an SIP Road or Sito Plus exhaust, they deliver lower down power. Lucia, can we make this a sticky?
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Post by Lucia on Jun 22, 2012 22:15:33 GMT
we can indeed
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Post by sbwnik on Jun 23, 2012 21:09:14 GMT
It was a bit of exasperated sarcasm, just seem to answer the question every week!
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Post by Lucia on Jul 8, 2012 7:39:09 GMT
We've had a few like that...usually scooter insurance, and licences.
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Post by marco on Oct 21, 2012 20:44:06 GMT
I bought a t5 classic last week, with a sito plus already fitted, Im pleased with the sound and performance, so I took it off yesterday as it was a bit scabby, a good wire brushing, and some halfords exhaust paint and its as good as new. What a job getting the hanger nut back on, just no room to get my hand in with the nut!!. There must be an easy way to fit this nut right , surely everyone doesnt bang their head on the garden path like I did today .
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Post by sbwnik on Oct 21, 2012 22:36:06 GMT
The nut should be a captive nut on a Sito... That said, a Sito is only a T5 exhaust anyway! Mind you, I always freed the captive nut on any exhaust with a bit of screwdriver leverage.
Then remove the rear shock lower bolt, knock the shock out, this tips the engine to give better access. Stick a bit of grease into the jaws of the spanner that holds the nut, slide the bolt through (DO NOT FORGET TO GREASE THIS OR IT WILL NOT COME OUT NEXT TIME!), offer up the nut and gently try to get the screw to bite. If you're struggling, it's possible to locate the nut on the screw by finding a screwdriver that fits into the nut and holding it steady that way until the screw bites.
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Post by marco on Nov 3, 2012 22:35:44 GMT
cheers sbwnic, heres one youve prob heard before, well I 've just gone and bought a new px 150, ( i know , a fool and his money), anyway, it runs ok , but feels like its a bit rich, getting bogged down in heavy traffic, should I put a sito/sip/road on it? , not for performance reasons, just to get rid of the euro/cat gubbins and let the motor breath better, I dont want more performance, just a smooth ride ( like me T5), and will I have to re-jet???, cheers ..
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Post by sbwnik on Nov 4, 2012 5:07:32 GMT
Ugh. Euro spec settings suck.
Best advice i can offer is 'look up stock jettings for an early PX150 with autolube and use those as a starting point', although I'd be tempted to upjet one size if I fitted the SIP pipe.
You say it feels a bit rich - if it's new as in 'brand spanking, first owner' etc, then check with the shop to see if they've over jetted it to stop you seizing during running in. I don't know anyone that still does that, but at one time it was common practice. If that's the case it would explain the running problem.
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Post by marco on Nov 4, 2012 15:49:22 GMT
cheers, Ill phone the dealer on monday, just for advice, Im not taking it back, too much of a ball acke, I can change a main jet. Do you think a sip/road will make a difference over the stock euro exhaust.?? if I do fit one I wonder where I will stand with the pioggio 2 year warranty..
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Post by sbwnik on Nov 5, 2012 2:05:07 GMT
How can I put this so it doesn't sound like I'm giving you any information that would invalidate your warranty.
If it was my scooter, I'd take the exhaust off and leave it on a shelf in the garage. I'd check my timing settings and make a note of them. I'd make a note of the original jetting and put any jets away safely. I'd buy a spare airfilter with the heart shaped drill out and save the original.
That's all I'm saying.
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Post by marco on Nov 5, 2012 17:08:51 GMT
funny enough thats simlar to what the salesman told me today, and if any warranty work is needed, put the origional pipe back on.before it goes back in. cheers.
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Post by Stovie on Apr 15, 2014 11:53:57 GMT
The Simonini is a favourite in our club on the PX's. I personally use a Simonini on m T5 (152 kit) and find it decent enough. Have used a Sterling on my P2 without issue also. I used to love the LeoVinci, but can't seem to find them any longer.
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Post by mickingle on May 28, 2014 12:48:06 GMT
Does anyone have any experiance with the new px125's? i pick mine up next week and was mulling over wether to ask them replace the standard exhaust to improve performance.
The guy in the shop said its not necessary as the performance is pretty decent anyway, but im worried ill notice a big difference from my last vespa which was a t5 classic i had new back in 1999ish.
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Post by henri on May 29, 2014 16:57:39 GMT
if not worried about the warranty take the exhaust off an throw it ,or put on shelf an keep for "warranty servicing" .then sip road 2.0 an upjet by 2 sizes , as compared to a t5 you will notice a big diff ,even taking into consideration ya 15years older/wiser/slower yourself . an the guy in the shop is selling it an prob telling ya what he thinks you want to hear/is easyest for him . H
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Post by mickingle on May 30, 2014 7:56:28 GMT
Nice one, cheers henri
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Post by henri on May 30, 2014 8:24:53 GMT
if the coffeas kicked in an memorys working ,theres a thread devoted to de-restricting a new px125 on here somewhere already ,try the search bit,an also on the vespa club uk forum aswell. though quite simple a job to do ,it does void any warranty,an if not declared can mess up ya insurance ,so i def didnt tell ya to do it , but reports ive heard are it transforms the scoot to as good as the old px ,but they werent as good a engine as a t5 ,so your earlier was faster,an also if you want the most out of the scoot you need to change the cdi,as the standard 1 has a limiter at about 6500-7000rpm . theres aftermarket 1's but cant remember the price. H
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Post by henri on May 30, 2014 8:25:31 GMT
if the coffeas kicked in an memorys working ,theres a thread devoted to de-restricting a new px125 on here somewhere already ,try the search bit,an also on the vespa club uk forum aswell. though quite simple a job to do ,it does void any warranty,an if not declared can mess up ya insurance ,so i def didnt tell ya to do it , but reports ive heard are it transforms the scoot to as good as the old px ,but they werent as good a engine as a t5 ,so your earlier was faster,an also if you want the most out of the scoot you need to change the cdi,as the standard 1 has a limiter at about 6500-7000rpm . theres aftermarket 1's but cant remember the price. H
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Post by mickingle on May 30, 2014 11:58:32 GMT
Fantastic, I think ill give it a couple of months then start tinkering.......really appreciate this.,
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Post by mickingle on Jul 11, 2014 16:05:41 GMT
Nice update, my dealer has agreed to fit a sito-plus for me and upjet and that will keep it in warranty as long as they do it for me which i think is a pretty decent compramise. Im happy the expected difference from the cat exhaust to the sito will suffice whilst still in warranty. All in all they have been a top scooter shop from start to finish.
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Post by Vespresso on Jul 22, 2014 7:01:27 GMT
Nice update, my dealer has agreed to fit a sito-plus for me and upjet and that will keep it in warranty as long as they do it for me which i think is a pretty decent compramise. Im happy the expected difference from the cat exhaust to the sito will suffice whilst still in warranty. All in all they have been a top scooter shop from start to finish. Get it in writing that the warranty will stay valid.
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Post by mickingle on Jul 22, 2014 10:58:28 GMT
I didn't think of that. Will do, cheers. Have you had s bad experiance with this sort of thing?
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Post by Vespresso on Jul 22, 2014 13:28:16 GMT
I didn't think of that. Will do, cheers. Have you had s bad experiance with this sort of thing? Not specifically with Scooters, but have had contractual issues in the past, it's all ok till it goes pear shaped, and then people won't remember the conversation. If you have it in writing then, should you need it, the courts will be on your side. If you can email the dealer asking them to confirm the warranty won't be affected (be specific about the modification), it's quite easy for them to respond, and an email confirmation is as good as them writing it in their own blood!
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Post by henri on Jul 22, 2014 15:04:32 GMT
agree with above ,verbal contracts only stand up with honest people , an there a rarity in this world today,specially were business an money is concerned. H
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Post by mickingle on Jul 22, 2014 15:10:23 GMT
I've asked the question now by email just to be sure. I do trust them but we are talking about a machine worth £3k even if that price is well above what it should be in my opinion, but i specificaly bought one new to be covered for the 1st couple of years whilst i found my way back round scooters.
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Post by henri on Jul 22, 2014 15:53:12 GMT
the old saying is " a verbal contract aint worth the paper its written on " . only people i do business with on a handshake are close n old mates ,an it can still cause problems, well until they remember the pick-handle ive got hung in the garage with "debt management team" written on it, never had to use it yet but a pointed finger can work wonders . so long as ya wait til they reply ,an it says it in black n white your covered , an 3 "bags ov sand" aint that much for all the fun it can bring ya ,saw sum figures the other day that showed with inflation an such like most motors have actually dropped in price/value over last 20-30 years ,or where price is comparable come loads better equipped ie satnav,aircon etc,but when i put vesp's figures in theve become more expensive ,bucking the trend , if a wholly chinese company can make/import n sell a scoot for under a grand ,crap quality accepted, does piaggio's slightly better quality really justify there 3x the money. i think yes ,for a dealership network,spares supply a warranty that has more use than just as confetti ,an its a VESPA , an will make it to its first mot with a bit of care ,most other chinese 1's dont last the first 3 years ,Henri
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Post by mickingle on Jul 22, 2014 16:21:16 GMT
You've hit the nail on the head. It's worth every penny for the amount of enjoyment im getting out of riding it, especialy in comparison to being sat stuck in traffic, doing the same dull drive in the car i've done for 10 years. The mad thing is once i'd bought the scooter, lump sum insurance, helmet, new jacket, there was hardly any change from selling my 58 plate Focus which wasnt in bad nick. No regrets. I'm sure i paid £2000 for my T5 Classic in '99, so 33% inflation in 15 years just seems a lot.
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Post by zoltan007 on Mar 28, 2015 9:25:41 GMT
Hi folks - thought I'd ask this question here rather than start a new thread. I've just acquired this pipe for my PX125. Anyone tell me what it is?
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Post by vespasco on Mar 28, 2015 18:40:23 GMT
A green turtle?
Do i win £5?
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