Hm. Well mine's a 67 and it's got the trapezoid headlight, a 'Vespa S' legshield badge, a scrolly 'Vespa Sprint' badge on the back of the frame between the seat and the rear light (which, I might add, is totally different from his), a chrome legshield trim and chrome trims on the sides of the front mudguard and the side panels. I don't know if the model changed that radically between 67 and 68, or if it was just totally different overseas; someone else might be able to confirm or deny that.
Also, his "near flawless" appears to include a significant dent in the toolbox hatch, so if I were you I'd have a good look round it for other damage or filler.
I see he's also asking $3500 for it, which is just over £2000. Now mine's insured for £1600, and it's a multiple award winning scooter - so feel free to go to my Facebook profile, print off those two photos of it in glorious Norfolk technicolour, and show them to him. Then offer him £1,739.20 (or £1000) which is what I reckon it's worth.
If he is going overseas as he says in his ad, he'll want rid of it. If he doesn't come drastically down on the price, walk away and find something else.
Devo I'm doing some research here and all the photos I can find of 1968 Sprints look just like mine with the trapezoid headlight.
What this bloke's selling looks to me like it might be a Sprint Veloce, which had the round headlight (although the trim on his doesn't look as chunky as the Veloce, more like a Rally), and Piaggio didn't start making the Veloce until 1969 as far as I'm aware.
Some of the info there makes me think it might be an American Sprint Veloce, like the grey handle-grips and the circular headlight.
I'm not sure why it doesn't have a badge above the rear light ... could that indicate it's a re-badged Bajaj maybe?
Yes, I clocked the dent on the side panel hatch as well, minor stuff like that won't bother me too much though as I'm only going to be a temporary owner plus as you mention, it could prove useful in trying to knock the price down!
Prices do seem to be a bit daft here, I think I was being conservative when I said the premium was about a third.
I think I will go and take a look though anyway as unless you want to pay really daft money there doesn't seem to be much knocking about at the moment. I need to get over to Manly (where the scoot is) for a butchers at the area anyway
I've also been in contact briefly with the guy and he seems pretty genuine on the surface but I get the feeling he doesn't know that much about Vespas. He says it registered for a year (over here you have to register it every year and that includes tax and basic insurance), that he has had it 2 years and bought it from an old Italian guy (though that sounds a little bit suss).
There's not much point in me picking up something that needs restoring Rudi as I only want it to get my scootering fix while I'm here in the sun (though it's actually been pishing it down for about a week now!) down under for the next 8 or 9 months.
I'll give it a thorough going over (as much as I'm capable of at least) and take it for a spin to check the gears and that are moving smoothly and then if he will come down significantly on the price maybe somet will happen.
I know what a scoot with filler in looks and feels like as my PX has plenty of it (thanks to bleedin' Rusholme drivers), not that I ever plan to part with the old girl anyway
I'm going to have to accept that I am going to have a to pay a bit over the odds though as for one they are over-priced here and two I can't wait 6 months to find the perfect compromise of quality and price. Will let you know how I get on.
Post by Devo McDuff on May 29, 2010 11:34:33 GMT 1
I took a look at the scoot and liked it but won't be making an offer. Although it had quite a bit of rust I think it would have tidied up fine with a little bit of work, the brakes seemed okay and no major body damage or problems with bearings or anything. The problem was that when I was taking it for a test spin after about 15 minutes when I opened it up and got it to high revs in 3rd it chugged and then just died completely. It started up okay again with the choke but I'm staying clear. The guy seemed pretty sound and genuine and said it doesn't normally do that but I'm not taking any risks.
Also, I posted on a few Aussie scooter forums and they all thought the price was about right. So it looks like I am going to have to pay considerably over the odds but I suppose that also means I'm likely to get it back when I come to sell next year.
Back to the drawing board then eh. Still, I had a nice ferry trip and can now add the Sprint Veloce to the list of Vespas I've ridden PX, PK and T5 being the others.
craigb04: hi guys quick hell from craigb04 a newby from scotland
Mar 7, 2015 23:13:45 GMT 1
callaway49: hi! I have a vespa Piaggio PX 125E from 1984 and I've problems with removing the side panels. It dos not work like in the Manual of Haynes. I can't se any panel catches. The Manual is not like the real model. Can anybody please help me?
Mar 13, 2015 9:23:30 GMT 1
sime66: You've probably got the underseat levers on a 1984 instead of the catches. This tutorial is for a Stella, but the first thing he shows you is how to take your sidepanel off, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y44LG0KtPfI
Mar 13, 2015 22:14:35 GMT 1
callaway49: Yes!!! It's unbelievable how I've tried and not notised the levers. I owe you many thanks for this tip
Mar 14, 2015 9:57:38 GMT 1
sime66: You're welcome; now you can get stuck in!
Mar 14, 2015 13:45:34 GMT 1
t5bill: callaway49 just remember if you tinker with it and you have nutz and bolts left over you've c**ked up somewhere lol
Mar 20, 2015 9:21:25 GMT 1
slips: Hello can anyone please tell me how much 2 stroke oil needs to be added to say 4 litres of petrol for my dad revisiting his youth for his 1960 125 vbb vespa. Must say I'm jealous as it has chromed panels white walled tyres and has been restored so well
Mar 20, 2015 13:43:35 GMT 1
innocentgee: slips: 2% mix, 20ml per litre so 80ml for 4 litres
Mar 20, 2015 15:28:24 GMT 1
slips: Thank you so much for that. I just hope me old man won't ride the scoot and lets me. Fingers crossed.
Mar 20, 2015 17:04:07 GMT 1
stevedolly69: ive got a t5 with a 172 kit 28mm carb wont rev hard just splutters its had a new stator/cdi/plug and cap/new tank and fuel line/tried another carb /resealed the inlet/ has anyone got a clue its drining me bonkers..
Apr 1, 2015 13:28:11 GMT 1
jimmynz: hi all. I need some help with an electrical issue I have. I have just replaced my headlight bulb on my px200e and now when I turn the light on, my indicators and rear tail, brake light stop working. the headlight doesn't work now either. help
Apr 2, 2015 21:25:35 GMT 1
dalstonmick: hello all I have been viewing your posts over the last few months and have decided to join this great site
Apr 9, 2015 14:24:15 GMT 1
putty1974: Hi all, new to the scooter scene and at the tender age of 40 just bought my first scooter, 96 T5,(no Paul Weller haircut I hasten to add).
Apr 11, 2015 0:45:44 GMT 1
putty1974: quite embarrassing question I need to ask, I am struggling to consistently start my T5 and was wondering if there is a knack to it,think I'm doing everything right, fuel lever turn on, choke out but wondering if there is a knack to the kickstart or i
Apr 11, 2015 0:47:58 GMT 1
putty1974: am I missing something??
Apr 11, 2015 0:48:24 GMT 1
vespaskin86: putty it could be a lot of things but from what your saying your doing it rite maybe give the throttle a little twist too, maybe a new plug would help too
Apr 16, 2015 22:00:08 GMT 1
henri: hi putty ,is this from cold or when hot it struggles to start , if hot dont use choke,if when cold as vespaskins says new plug n a service ,if it wont start by 3rd-4th kick somethings off ,ok, H
Apr 17, 2015 13:46:05 GMT 1
putty1974: Hi vespaskins and Henri appreciate this, yeah from cold and had the choke out, had other people say there's a knack to kickstart as well, will change plug and see how that is, failing that a service won't do any harm! Thanks for your help!
Apr 18, 2015 17:40:38 GMT 1